From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Alex Griffin Subject: Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines? Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 09:21:16 -0500 Message-ID: <20181024142115.GA2088@antares.lan> References: <87k1m852yc.fsf@gnu.org> <20181024010640.GA14776@antares.lan> <87y3an8xxe.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44473) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFK2X-0007Mr-Dx for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:21:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFK2U-0000Fv-8C for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:21:41 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87y3an8xxe.fsf@gnu.org> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Ludovic =?iso-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?= Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Jack Hill skribis: > > Interesting. I too am eager understand your thinking on this. I am skeptical of codes of conduct in FLOSS projects because they often come bundled with a certain (non-software-related) political orthodoxy. The Contributor Covenant is the worst offender in this regard, having been created specifically for that purpose [1]. Although most of the offending text has now been removed from the document itself, the same spirit still follows behind it to projects that adopt the CC. (It is also baffling to me that programmers would want to recreate an imitation HR department in their time off from the corporate world, but I'll put that aside.) On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:02:37PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > > Same here. For the record, the code of conduct was adopted in Guix > in Dec. 2015. I hadn't noticed when I first started contributing. A bad code of conduct can still work out fine with good project leadership in place, which is why the Contributor Covenant was only one of several factors influencing my decision to move away from Guix. I hope it is evident that I don't oppose the CoC out of a desire to behave badly. Please forgive some vagueness as well; I tried very hard not to provoke unnecessary controversy. As a result much of this email was edited out before sending. -- Alex Griffin [1]: https://twitter.com/coralineada/status/1041465346656530432