From: Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@scratchpost.org>
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: System calls interrupted by signals - or not
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 10:33:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180201103334.5a803d2d@scratchpost.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877erxunyq.fsf@netris.org>
Hi Mark,
On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 03:13:33 -0500
Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> wrote:
> Guile is a library meant for use within existing applications, and
> therefore needs to be able to cope with whatever signal handling policy
> those applications have chosen. We certainly cannot assume that all
> kinds of signals will be configured for SA_RESTART.
That's too bad. It can't be helped, then.
Then see the table for a little overview.
(I've tried very hard to sensibly handle EINTR in the past and it's
surprisingly difficult - that table is what I got out of it - and
the decision to avoid PC-losering signals whenever I can)
And even for the purported use of EINTR (so that you can have complicated
signal-unsafe handler actions after an "if (errno == EINTR)" block)
it's difficult to get right. That's because you only get EINTR when a system
call has been interrupted by a signal. It can happen that you aren't yet in
the system call, the signal handler runs (to completion), and then you enter a
system call.
You *don't* get EINTR for the missed signal then.
I don't know what they were thinking.
> There are cases where you may want the
> ability to interrupt a system call without killing the thread. Suppose
> you are waiting for a large I/O operation to complete over a slow
> network or device. Signals are the only way I know of in POSIX to
> interrupt a system call, but it can only be done if there's at least one
> kind of signal that's not configured for SA_RESTART.
That's a good point.
But many people just use
do { syscall } while (errno == EINTR);
in random libraries and then you can't interrupt the system call after all
in your user program.
Also, there's a race because you can be right before entering a system call,
your signal handler runs, and then the system call isn't interrupted after
all (because there was nothing to interrupt - and now you can't branch
on it anymore. That's how I started to enter this EINTR rabbit hole -
one of my programs had such a bug).
> "When you don’t specify with ‘sigaction’ or ‘siginterrupt’ what a
> particular handler should do, it uses a default choice. The default
> choice in the GNU C Library is to make primitives fail with ‘EINTR’."
:-(
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[not found] ` <20180129122403.D1E1420ABC@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2018-01-29 13:53 ` 01/01: hydra: Work around import problem Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-29 14:02 ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-01-29 14:47 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-01-30 23:35 ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-01-31 2:12 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-02-01 0:01 ` System calls interrupted by signals - or not Danny Milosavljevic
2018-02-01 8:13 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-02-01 9:33 ` Danny Milosavljevic [this message]
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