From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pjotr Prins Subject: Re: website: say what Guix is at the very top Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 19:13:46 +0100 Message-ID: <20180131181346.GA18066@thebird.nl> References: <87a7x31gm6.fsf@gnu.org> <86372sdxz0.fsf@gmail.com> <87h8r71dp9.fsf@gnu.org> <867es3cgeq.fsf@gmail.com> <87bmhet0hc.fsf@elephly.net> <86zi4xb8tk.fsf@gmail.com> <20180129073718.GA32294@thebird.nl> <86h8r26k4e.fsf@gmail.com> <20180131172717.GA17794@thebird.nl> <86607h7vas.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55477) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1egwwh-0005j7-EG for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2018 13:17:20 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1egwwe-00026s-9L for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2018 13:17:19 -0500 Received: from mail.thebird.nl ([95.154.246.10]:37161) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1egwwe-00025O-2i for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2018 13:17:16 -0500 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86607h7vas.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: myglc2@gmail.com Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, sirgazil On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 01:11:23PM -0500, myglc2@gmail.com wrote: > On 01/31/2018 at 18:27 Pjotr Prins writes: > > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:58:09AM -0500, myglc2@gmail.com wrote: > >> To be explicit, I added a couple target groups and indicated the product > >> we would pitch with an x ... > >> > >> | Target Group | Guix | GuixSD | Motivation | > >> |-----------------------------+------+--------+--------------------------------------| > >> | hacker | x | x | scheme, functional, free > >> | sysadmin & devop | x | ? | make user/developer/researcher happy > > > > I doubt they will use GuixSD unless they have a very specific purpose > > in mind, e.g., say for mailserver deployment. Cloud/VMs. It could > > work, but I don't think it is a large group we can pitch to. > > What about a forward-thinking sysadmin commissioning new systems for a > startup? If they know they want Guix is there a reason they wouldn't > install GuixSD? Could be. > > > >> | user/developer/researcher | x | | productivity tool > > > > This is my favorite because they are potential packagers. > > > >> | generic organizational user | ? | | ? | > > > > Yes, another target group, i.e., the pointy haired boss. Some of these > > understand the concept of reducing cost. > > Here I am thinking of "unsophisticated" users, e.g., someone told to run > SAS on a server that is probably not going to actually ever call guix. Yes. But the pointy haired boss may read about saving time and money and call for trying out Guix. > > > >> | desktop distro user | | ? | ? | > > > > Libre desktop user. Yes. > > > >> |-----------------------------+------+--------+--------------------------------------| > > > > We also have embedded systems and phones as a potential audience. I > > think OpenWRT/LEDE, for example, could buy into Guix. And then there > > is Android. If we are able to strip down packages to a minimum that > > becomes very interesting to them. > > OK, so like this ? > > >> | Target Group | Guix | GuixSD | > >> | embedded sys/phone | | x | It will be a migration path. I was thinking Guix packages. But when we have lean packages GuixSD becomes an option, indeed. > > > > Then we have HPC as a specialization with optimized targets and > > relocatable packages. > > OK, so like this? > > >> | Target Group | Guix | GuixSD | > >> | HPC sysadmin | x | x | optimized targets and relocatable packages Not GuixSD. HPC will run CentOS or similar. > > And light containers for webservice/cloud deployments... > > Is this more detail on HPC or something else entirely? I think it is something else. More business oriented. Think Amazon. HPC is not ready to accept containers on a large scale. Pj.