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From: ng0 <ng0@n0.is>
To: "Gábor Boskovits" <boskovits@gmail.com>
Cc: Guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Ideas for Summer of Code 2018 anyone?
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 21:18:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180113211801.ssmtiosdc3raughh@abyayala> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE4v=pg7rcG17_KU0+Y5KmV4E2HmM+mewt6qfxBYBq3y-njkqg@mail.gmail.com>

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Gábor Boskovits transcribed 13K bytes:
> 2018-01-13 20:32 GMT+01:00 ng0 <ng0@n0.is>:
> 
> > Gábor Boskovits transcribed 6.9K bytes:
> > > I've checked last the list from last year.
> > >
> > > It seems to me that the RISCV port might be more important than ever in
> > the
> > > face of Spectre.
> >
> > It doesn't really fix that and suffer from it aswell, but a port to it
> > would be great for the other obvious reasons.
> >
> >
> Current implementations seem not to be affected.
> Also mitigating problems like this, provided that we have rtl level
> open source designs have a much better chance. We have this
> for example for Freedom: https://github.com/sifive/freedom.
> And yes, porting would be great for other reasons too.
> 
> What I currently miss from the field of open hardware the most
> is an open source FPGA. This could really close the gap we
> are now having, and we could make really fully open hardware.
> An open sourced FPGA design would be important not for
> manifaturing, but to allow checking it. It is not unheard of
> buggy FPGA-s. However,I don't think that this will happen any
> time soon.
> 
> > The shepherd systemd semantics would be also nice to have.
> > > I consider the syntax less important.
> > > It would be also nice to create a service or set of services to make
> > > administration experience
> > > similar to a systemd sytem. For example the functionality of journalctl
> > > would be nice to have.
> >
> > That is one goal that can be defined 'log view' and discussed.
> > The rest above is not very clear, lots of guessing.
> >
> > > Even a howto on configuring guixds to have the equivalent services of
> > > systemd would
> > > benefit adoptation, and it could point to functionality missing in our
> > > system compared to
> > > systemd.
> >
> >
> What I actually is journalctl, and a status display like systemctl status.
> It is great that work is in progress in this area, I was not aware of 'log
> view'.

There is no work on a log viewer. I just suggested it again, for the GSoC.

> I think it would also be great if we could give pointers how to replicate:
> 
> localectl
> networkctl
> resolved
> systemctl
> timedatectl
> 
> functions. People coming from a systemd background could have a
> document to find the appropriate sections in our manuals.
> 
> 
> > I don't think we need everything systemd has, or do we?
> > What are you personally or work related missing, besides the obvious
> > amount of services?
> >
> > I myself was missing an easy, less scheme focused way to create operating
> > systems, so I'm working on that. To get to why I mention this: I thought it
> > was too obvious, but most of the time the things that are too obvious
> > are not being worked on because they are too obvious.
> >
> > I would very much like to have an build log reader+browser as mentioned
> > here
> > in the past. Today I've pointed someone to /var/log/guix/drvs/ and just
> > gave
> > the note to use `find -name '*thingtosearchfor*'` and copy it to $home,
> > extract and view it.
> >
> > >
> > > 2018-01-11 21:42 GMT+01:00 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org>:
> > >
> > > > Hello Guix!
> > > >
> > > > It’s time to prepare for GSoC again!
> > > >
> > > > We need to collect ideas, presumably based on
> > > > <https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/GSoC-2017>, in a new
> > > > “GSoC-2018” page on that wiki.
> > > >
> > > > Let’s add new ideas to
> > > > <https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/GSoC-2018>!
> > > >
> > > > Does someone want to take care of coordinating with Giuseppe Scrivano
> > > > and others at summer-of-code@gnu.org?  (Essentially sending them the
> > URL
> > > > of the idea list and monitoring the list.)
> > > >
> > > > Ludo’.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------- Továbított levél ----------
> > > > From: Giuseppe Scrivano <gscrivano@gnu.org>
> > > > To: GNU Summer Of Code <summer-of-code@gnu.org>
> > > > Cc:
> > > > Bcc:
> > > > Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 11:06:53 +0100
> > > > Subject: [IMPORTANT] Ideas for Summer of Code 2018
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > Google is accepting applications for the next Summer of Code and as
> > > > usual we are going to apply for it. José, Darshit and myself are going
> > > > to manage the presence of GNU.
> > > >
> > > > We should start thinking about a list of ideas for the next Summer of
> > > > Code and potential mentors.
> > > >
> > > > This is the list of ideas we had last year:
> > > >
> > > >   http://www.gnu.org/software/soc-projects/ideas-2017.html
> > > >
> > > > Is there anything left undone that can be reused this year?
> > > >
> > > > Please start sending ideas to add to the page and link them to the
> > > > potential mentors that can help with it.
> > > >
> > > > Please send the html snippet for the ideas page, something like:
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ---------------------
> > > > <h3 id="foo"><a href="http://www.gnu.org/software/foo";>GNU
> > FOO</a></h3>
> > > >
> > > > <p>GNU FOO maintains their list of ideas for GSOC in an external
> > > >   webpage: <a
> > > > href="http://foo.org/wanted.html";>http://foo.org/wanted.html</a>.
> > > > </p>
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ---------------------
> > > >
> > > > so that it can be embedded in the page as it is.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Giuseppe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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> >

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-13 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-11 20:42 Ideas for Summer of Code 2018 anyone? Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-13 18:10 ` Gábor Boskovits
2018-01-13 19:32   ` ng0
2018-01-13 20:12     ` Gábor Boskovits
2018-01-13 21:18       ` ng0 [this message]
2018-01-13 21:16   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-13 21:24 ` Ludovic Courtès

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