From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Leo Famulari Subject: Re: Meltdown / Spectre Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 00:04:27 -0500 Message-ID: <20180110050427.GB29390@jasmine.lan> References: <874lnzcedp.fsf@gmail.com> <20180106174358.GA28436@jasmine.lan> <87lghapeu5.fsf@gmail.com> <87incc6z9o.fsf@gmail.com> <87fu7g436e.fsf@fastmail.com> <87vagad3xx.fsf@netris.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Fba/0zbH8Xs+Fj9o" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37450) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZ8ZU-0003gQ-FY for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 00:05:05 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZ8ZR-0003nw-8f for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 00:05:04 -0500 Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:33329) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZ8ZR-0003ng-3c for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 00:05:01 -0500 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87vagad3xx.fsf@netris.org> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Mark H Weaver Cc: development@libreboot.org, guix-devel@gnu.org --Fba/0zbH8Xs+Fj9o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 06:10:02PM -0500, Mark H Weaver wrote: > Marius Bakke writes: > > Katherine Cox-Buday writes: > >> I am also interested -- more from a philisophical perspective -- how > >> GuixSD and GNU squares with these kinds of security updates. > > > > In my opinion, CPU microcode falls under "non-functional data", as > > expressly permitted by the GNU FSDG. >=20 > I strongly disagree. CPU microcode is absolutely functional data. > It determines how the CPU functions. Personally I would really like to have microcode deployment integrated into GuixSD. But I agree with Mark here, and I don't see how it can be reconciled with the FSDG. --Fba/0zbH8Xs+Fj9o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEsFFZSPHn08G5gDigJkb6MLrKfwgFAlpVntsACgkQJkb6MLrK fwjdgxAAhfW4myEyqRxvTNqhYJs9QUZk5H2TdWYgd2uYWrqLqU16s3gZIXcLf/8P bhhTA26GTyZ4EwIEo/7CftSyfJ/9qdM4UeBRS/ew6hYct6p/XTuiaV7BxTVBFVoa Ps0OqdGHzVUdvH6BY8+h8poRsg35NnbTNW1n6quvuE6K11SQ7clUtGJgEiavaadW FkEaYwnVVI5mlT1gKjH0wYNCNBbBPoOi3xF/d2WACGPIOZzzeUC27dr/zTxHy4pW vwfKvtBK87WOR0y5Y5+2T31aSJ5QGfWgtgNqx4lgTqLPrjnuq1ZavUUzbTH82Ke4 Z7QxKB99CQt7k6FKpy094aWeRIl4C1+y0xVZ+7SyCz48mVh3xoyikL16U0/1xdQ3 GnmRviicaE/sH4S92v9Zt960HvwQ5SijXmdo+FwT7zxKMjlt7tlvfQtTipdCgdyZ P9LAX6DyO6h/+x1OOgA1EInPRUMxNp1L04EpWz6g12H/8FooN0ajao7P5Ao/oN0q xx74d1k6A5Kzb+fcuy4SY+P3UA8cBt28/3uv22JCkCkU3ZfxlMofhaDK6Zvt0734 E3mzT/QEwsxoSM9LwU7rIt/CZ7IBfulK03sV8PkxMLkj2OS5cNnh913QZxyhHqBG LSyG2ggzccYo2goPgUn1FpR2x04xZgO43tfYtnmvbluNRtnnf/Q= =2SIN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Fba/0zbH8Xs+Fj9o--