people.mozilla.com shutdown - impact and issues.

people.mozilla.com shutdown - impact and issues.

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Hi all,

I just found out that people.mozilla.com is no more:

> https://github.com/mozilla/charts/issues/39

The homepage (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Projects/SpiderMonkey/Releases/38)
of mozjs-38 states:

> The download url is outdated and SpiderMonkey not RELEASE alone! Get it here mozilla-esr38
> You will find it in "Firefox Extended Support Release 38" package on hg release

This page leads to:

> https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-esr38/archive/tip.tar.bz2

Which gives you a 170MiB (!) Download from their hg.

We have 2.5 choices:

1) look into archive.org if they have saved the tarball.
   pro: ?
   contra: rely on archive.org
1.5) Use the tarballs I still had available and published right now here:
     https://d.n0.is/d/v/mozjs/ or https://d.n0.is/dist/vault/mozjs/
     The 2nd link is just a symlink to the first.
     pro: smaller files
     contra: You rely on me, trust me. That's the same with archive.org, we
             trust archive.org not to manipulate the files.
             In addition to this: we do not get further updates on mozjs-38
             (if it's still developed) because they are now in hg and no
             longer released on their own. I can only be a drop-in
             replacement for one version.
2) Use their hg.
   contra: big terrible archive, possible just from HEAD ("tip" is just
           that in hg terms, right? I'm not using hg very often).
   pro: ?!?

Impact of this change:

I noticed that icecat was building from source.

mozjs@38:
> Building the following 3 packages would ensure 5 dependent packages are rebuilt: 0ad@0.0.22-alpha gnome-maps@3.26.2 gnome@3.24.3

mozjs@24:
> No dependents other than itself: mozjs@24.2.0

mozjs@17:
> Building the following 27 packages would ensure 83 dependent packages are rebuilt: connman@1.35 modemmanager-qt@5.39.0 deja-dup@34.3 fprintd@0.7.0 cinnamon-desktop@3.4.2 network-manager-vpnc@1.2.4 network-manager-openvpn@1.8.0 eid-mw@4.3.4 simple-scan@3.24.1 gnome@3.24.3 lxde@0.99.2 mate@1.18.0 polkit-gnome@0.105 kross@5.39.0 kde-frameworkintegration@5.39.0 khtml@5.39.0 kactivities-stats@5.39.0 kmediaplayer@5.39.0 kdelibs4support@5.39.0 kpmcore@2.2.1 krita@3.3.2.1 kxmlrpcclient@5.39.0 baloo@5.39.0 kdevelop@5.1.2 python-libvirt@3.7.0 virt-manager@1.4.3 xfce@4.12.0

We get mozjs 17 and 24 from their ftp:
> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/js/
only 38 is affected.

Other packages?
WOFF is the only package that turns up when I grep for "people.mozilla.com" in gnu/packages/,
so this must be fixed aswell.


Ideas? Thoughts? Screams of despair?
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Re: people.mozilla.com shutdown - impact and issues.

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ng0 transcribed 3.7K bytes:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just found out that people.mozilla.com is no more:
> 
> > https://github.com/mozilla/charts/issues/39
> 
> The homepage (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Projects/SpiderMonkey/Releases/38)
> of mozjs-38 states:
> 
> > The download url is outdated and SpiderMonkey not RELEASE alone! Get it here mozilla-esr38
> > You will find it in "Firefox Extended Support Release 38" package on hg release
> 
> This page leads to:
> 
> > https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-esr38/archive/tip.tar.bz2
> 
> Which gives you a 170MiB (!) Download from their hg.
> 
> We have 2.5 choices:
> 
> 1) look into archive.org if they have saved the tarball.
>    pro: ?
>    contra: rely on archive.org
> 1.5) Use the tarballs I still had available and published right now here:
>      https://d.n0.is/d/v/mozjs/ or https://d.n0.is/dist/vault/mozjs/
>      The 2nd link is just a symlink to the first.
>      pro: smaller files
>      contra: You rely on me, trust me. That's the same with archive.org, we
>              trust archive.org not to manipulate the files.
>              In addition to this: we do not get further updates on mozjs-38
>              (if it's still developed) because they are now in hg and no
>              longer released on their own. I can only be a drop-in
>              replacement for one version.
> 2) Use their hg.
>    contra: big terrible archive, possible just from HEAD ("tip" is just
>            that in hg terms, right? I'm not using hg very often).
>    pro: ?!?
> 
> Impact of this change:
> 
> I noticed that icecat was building from source.
> 
> mozjs@38:
> > Building the following 3 packages would ensure 5 dependent packages are rebuilt: 0ad@0.0.22-alpha gnome-maps@3.26.2 gnome@3.24.3
> 
> mozjs@24:
> > No dependents other than itself: mozjs@24.2.0
> 
> mozjs@17:
> > Building the following 27 packages would ensure 83 dependent packages are rebuilt: connman@1.35 modemmanager-qt@5.39.0 deja-dup@34.3 fprintd@0.7.0 cinnamon-desktop@3.4.2 network-manager-vpnc@1.2.4 network-manager-openvpn@1.8.0 eid-mw@4.3.4 simple-scan@3.24.1 gnome@3.24.3 lxde@0.99.2 mate@1.18.0 polkit-gnome@0.105 kross@5.39.0 kde-frameworkintegration@5.39.0 khtml@5.39.0 kactivities-stats@5.39.0 kmediaplayer@5.39.0 kdelibs4support@5.39.0 kpmcore@2.2.1 krita@3.3.2.1 kxmlrpcclient@5.39.0 baloo@5.39.0 kdevelop@5.1.2 python-libvirt@3.7.0 virt-manager@1.4.3 xfce@4.12.0
> 
> We get mozjs 17 and 24 from their ftp:
> > https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/js/
> only 38 is affected.
> 
> Other packages?
> WOFF is the only package that turns up when I grep for "people.mozilla.com" in gnu/packages/,
> so this must be fixed aswell.

Someone "revived" woff here:

https://github.com/wget/sfnt2woff

https://github.com/instructure/canvas-lms/issues/1073

We already build from Debian down-upstream, so I guess
they are going to deal with this somehow.

> 
> Ideas? Thoughts? Screams of despair?
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