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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 15:05:04 +0000
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Ludovic Court=C3=A8s transcribed 1.8K bytes:
> Hello Tom,
>=20
> Tom Balzer <tbalzer@ksu.edu> skribis:
>=20
> > Recently I installed libreoffice in my user profile, and found that all
> > menus require the package 'font-gnu-freetype-ttf' in order to render
> > correctly. Without this package, every character was rendered as a
> > rectangle indicating a missing font.
>=20
> Every character in the body of the text, or every character in the UI?
>=20
> > From the manuals description of 'propagated-inputs', it seems like
> > this font package would fit the use case:
> >
> >> Lastly, =E2=80=98propagated-inputs=E2=80=99 is similar to =E2=80=98inp=
uts=E2=80=99, but the
> >> specified packages will be automatically installed alongside
> >> the package they belong to (*note =E2=80=98guix package=E2=80=99:
> >> package-cmd-propagated-inputs, for information on how =E2=80=98guix
> >> package=E2=80=99 deals with propagated inputs.)
> >>=20
> >> For example this is necessary when a C/C++ library needs
> >> headers of another library to compile, or when a pkg-config
> >> file refers to another one via its =E2=80=98Requires=E2=80=99 field.
> >
> > I asked on #guix, and one argument against including fonts in propagated
> > inputs is to avoid packaging the font when 'pack'ing for another
> > system. This to me is really an argument for including the fonts, since
> > there is no guarantee that the other system is 'rational', so to
> > speak. To create totally portable packages I would think including this
> > font required to render the menus would make sense.
>=20
> I think it=E2=80=99s a borderline case.  In a sense, the font is addition=
al
> material used as input by LO (and indeed LO is much less useful without
> it, but it=E2=80=99s still LO), though I can also understand the other ar=
gument.
>=20
> My current inclination would be the status quo.  Otherwise we=E2=80=99d h=
ave to
> worry about fonts and artwork for Abiword, Inkscape, etc. as well.
>=20
> Thoughts?
>=20
> Ludo=E2=80=99.
>=20
>=20

What about an fontcache-service that basically
is mcron running daily "fc-cache -f"
or even "fc-cache -fr"?

That would be the closest to a post-setup hook
refreshing font caches like people could be used
to from Archlinux etc.
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