From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ng0 Subject: Re: Thunderbird Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 10:31:03 +0000 Message-ID: <20170911103103.usfwh4xakibjw7bt@abyayala> References: <20170718171336.nwr4vk6uxlxmj4iv@abyayala> <87inich4k3.fsf@openmailbox.org> <20170728173117.dresjucctkml6e7j@abyayala> <874lsfefn3.fsf@openmailbox.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zjpwsuir22mcmsqe" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33487) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1drLzy-0008Co-9Y for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 06:31:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1drLzv-0002u5-5R for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 06:31:26 -0400 Received: from aibo.runbox.com ([91.220.196.211]:39148) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1drLzu-0002tU-Ut for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 06:31:23 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Arun Isaac Cc: guix-devel --zjpwsuir22mcmsqe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Arun Isaac transcribed 0.4K bytes: >=20 > > I was wondering if anyone would work on Astroid mail > > https://astroidmail.github.io/ > > > > It seems simpler to package than Thunderbird and it could be extremely > > useful in the short/medium term >=20 > Astroid requires external programs like mpop or offlineimap to fetch > mail. So it cannot quite replace Thunderbird for the casual mail > user. Perhaps, claws-mail or blasa are better alternatives. Both > claws-mail and balsa are already packaged for Guix. My only usecase for Thunderbird is Enigmail and its coming GNUnet integrati= on done in corporation of pEp (and GNUnet) and the Enigmail team. Personal opinion: Thunderbird is really terrible and I have my reasons why I stopped using it so long ago I stopped counting or caring for its existence (must've been around '99 or '00 maybe...). Nevertheless it is a mandatory tool for some people who can't switch easily and I doubt anyone will embrace the task of getting Thunderbird into Guix with joy. So far I'm hitting the first dr=C3=B6mpels (road bumpers) in the build proc= ess with a reference within Thunderbird. Wrt the earlier emails: yes, my intention (also for Icecat/Firefox) is to provide Addons via Guix to get rid of yet another point of authority (Mozilla Appstore). It is my understanding that at least a while back someone was already looking into this and at least the idea was accepted and welcomed. So far my only reference is NixOS and Gentoo, where NixOS is more useful with the way they construct their solutions. I'll also try the same for Newmoon (Palemoon) (or rather my wip'ish fork/patchset of Newmoon) before I sent it in when I have it in an presenta= ble, libre state. Alternatives exist, yep. But for me it's no only this or only that application question. It's about dynamic choice. --=20 ng0 GnuPG: A88C8ADD129828D7EAC02E52E22F9BBFEE348588 GnuPG: https://krosos.org/dist/keys/ https://www.infotropique.org https://www.krosos.org --zjpwsuir22mcmsqe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEqIyK3RKYKNfqwC5S4i+bv+40hYgFAlm2ZecACgkQ4i+bv+40 hYhszQ//fXAMSpOiSMIBtHFdWJtl3nvb8+88GNwUZwPy8u4bauCb/7UJWOhcvV9G LNuai1uJASwgjD6sIbYjRg4J7xdQpPF2GLLp/kQdXX60zm05ZMcpU8Oo1gyrkMzT gSIsX2VFo9CMoowRKfHehCIlr4KSTpecm0aul3Rmoti+xDCVhKpolcAce3s7pP1n tHvZZGY5bfu3cfcyNX9WC0h3r8vtBk+t/iySZW5XJs2hNL5idlxLhF0ojhXdpgJc 35dBjwXZj4DviLhUaT2oYYK7CD4R+egohc0MlD5aXkQaZ9m9Tn3TnTWF+i2fTE3X zu9nTNhXTcJLyy7yGV0Nl84bo7wQjm52O/+W4zUdRrbAOBHN1tsjG/aG5UkEnAP6 eNFyGtEOh2zY/MlW/DrrKSO7Vox8sR2DK/z6ryaFUpXVRVGI/JIb7+ik10jHAlHL M3gL2tXjCFJo33oGSsSFpwmcetQl4r+gHEgUMj2yk1/FiXXPfHf1Zv8q10+w9Cmm /GoiZ2z/EdrQzfQvnYaN+Yt4PPvWTdS6CkfqENukEQYL1G5U0qnaeSrZdshIjHlu YjotSjSdpzMQkSg65dHfDtRYwUzpmkm1R2yHZ9l9GZe2snDuhiIaOzj3S04CEi3r Hd5kK9ma9oiF8Lr6XWQfTuZia+V6jktHTxRP2oRXPW+yOAgC6Sg= =V69h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zjpwsuir22mcmsqe--