From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pjotr Prins Subject: Re: Building a secure communications server Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 15:04:28 +0200 Message-ID: <20170517130428.GA17070@thebird.nl> References: <20170513060327.GA20242@thebird.nl> <51f03a37.AEAAKHxcPksAAAAAAAAAAAOtZhgAAAACwQwAAAAAAAW9WABZFu9_@mailjet.com> <87efvs25de.fsf@gnu.org> <20170517115103.GA16553@thebird.nl> <87inkz4qkz.fsf@lassieur.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50741) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dAydK-0002gX-AB for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 May 2017 09:04:55 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dAydE-0001Ry-P2 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 May 2017 09:04:54 -0400 Received: from mail.thebird.nl ([95.154.246.10]:44876) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dAydE-0001Rb-I3 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 May 2017 09:04:48 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87inkz4qkz.fsf@lassieur.org> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Cl??ment Lassieur Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 02:26:20PM +0200, Cl??ment Lassieur wrote: > Thanks for working on this, I like the idea, and I have always wanted to > do something similar. Yes, I am surprised so few people here run their own :) > I don't understand how your server can run phases 1 to 3, since Postfix > isn't packaged. I guess you are running a foreign distro, which means > you are still pretty far from you goal. On the mail servers I normally run Debian with some Guix on top. I have had mail servers since 1996 or so - it was one incentive to try Linux at the time. My Linux first server (hosted in Bangladesh) was running sendmail over uucp(!). I came to smtp late :) I think it is not so much work to replicate my setup in Guix. For me it will be new to work with GuixSD images and configuring shepherd etc. But I am sure we can get some help there. > My own mail server runs GuixSD with OpenSMTPD, which works very well (I > even have one client!). Is there an important feature OpenSMTPD is > missing? If so, we should package Postfix as a first step. > > Same question with Courier-Imap: why don't you use Dovecot? Its Scheme > configuration is very nice, and it seems much more popular than > Courier-Imap anyway. Both great suggestions. Let me read up on them. I have been using the others because of an early start. Postfix has been very good to me. One reason to make this list is to invite ideas... > Also, I would push for a Jabber service rather than an IRC service, > because Jabber (XMPP) is decentralized. Absolutely! Japper is on. Git service is another. Pj.