Open Government Data License & CC-BY 4.0

Open Government Data License & CC-BY 4.0

[Brendan Tildesley]

I would like to package the cns-11643 fonts published at
http://data.gov.tw/node/5961 , however the license (
http://data.gov.tw/license ) is the Open Government Data License
published by the Taiwanese government, and is not available in Guix.

According to

https://discuss.okfn.org/t/license-approval-request-open-government-data-license-taiwan-1-0/4593

and the license it's self (clause 4.2) The license is compatible with
the CC-BY 4.0 license, although that is not in Guix either it seems. I
do not understand the legalities, but it seems that this license is only
really usable in Taiwan, and so we should use the CC-BY 4.0 instead.

This is how debian has set their license file:
http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/f/fonts-cns11643/fonts-cns11643_98.1+20150923-2_copyright

In any case, I find it all rather perplexing. What is the appropriate
way to deal with this in Guix and how should this package's (license
...) be set?

Re: Open Government Data License & CC-BY 4.0

[ng0]

Hi,

Brendan Tildesley transcribed 0.9K bytes:
> I would like to package the cns-11643 fonts published at
> http://data.gov.tw/node/5961 , however the license (
> http://data.gov.tw/license ) is the Open Government Data License
> published by the Taiwanese government, and is not available in Guix.
> 
> According to
> 
> https://discuss.okfn.org/t/license-approval-request-open-government-data-license-taiwan-1-0/4593
> 
> and the license it's self (clause 4.2) The license is compatible with
> the CC-BY 4.0 license, although that is not in Guix either it seems. I

CC-BY 3.0 is in Guix. Unless something fundamental changed in 4.0, 4.0
should be okay to add in the variants which are not CC-BY-NC.

Licenses can be added in guix/licenses.scm

> do not understand the legalities, but it seems that this license is only
> really usable in Taiwan, and so we should use the CC-BY 4.0 instead.
> 
> This is how debian has set their license file:
> http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/f/fonts-cns11643/fonts-cns11643_98.1+20150923-2_copyright
> 
> In any case, I find it all rather perplexing. What is the appropriate
> way to deal with this in Guix and how should this package's (license
> ...) be set?
> 
> 

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Re: Open Government Data License & CC-BY 4.0

[Brendan Tildesley]

ng0 於 2017-04-25 17:47 寫道:
>
> CC-BY 3.0 is in Guix. Unless something fundamental changed in 4.0, 4.0
> should be okay to add in the variants which are not CC-BY-NC.
>
> Licenses can be added in guix/licenses.scm
Well the license seems to be compatible with CC-BY 4.0 because it
explicitly states so in clause 4.2. Or is it compatible as a matter of
fact and that clause is simply pointing it out, and so it may also be
compatible with CC-BY 3.0? When we assign a license in a Guix package
definition, my understanding is that this is a statement saying
effectively "If you look in the source tar.gz, you will see that this
package is in fact licensed under ... license, perhaps in the COPYING
file". If I set the license to CC-BY 4.0, would that be claiming the
Taiwanese government has issued the font under that license. Does clause
4.2 mean "You can redistribute this under CC-BY 4.0 with your name on
it, if you want" or "We grant you this under the CC-BY 4.0". I'm not
even sure if that is a meaningful distinction in copyright law. If the
former is actually correct, does this require me as a Guix dev to add a
COPYING file distributing the font under CC-BY 4.0 under my name or
what? Can I say truthfully that the source .zip file containing the
fonts is under the CC-BY 4.0 ?

Re: Open Government Data License & CC-BY 4.0

[Alex Vong]

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Hello Brendan,

If I understand correctly, CC-BY 4.0 is a non-copyleft license. Since
the license is compatible with CC-BY 4.0, it is also a permissive
license. So I think using 'license:non-copyleft' should work.

> ng0 於 2017-04-25 17:47 寫道:
>>
>> CC-BY 3.0 is in Guix. Unless something fundamental changed in 4.0, 4.0
>> should be okay to add in the variants which are not CC-BY-NC.
>>
>> Licenses can be added in guix/licenses.scm
> Well the license seems to be compatible with CC-BY 4.0 because it
> explicitly states so in clause 4.2. Or is it compatible as a matter of
> fact and that clause is simply pointing it out, and so it may also be
> compatible with CC-BY 3.0? When we assign a license in a Guix package
> definition, my understanding is that this is a statement saying
> effectively "If you look in the source tar.gz, you will see that this
> package is in fact licensed under ... license, perhaps in the COPYING
> file". If I set the license to CC-BY 4.0, would that be claiming the
> Taiwanese government has issued the font under that license. Does clause
> 4.2 mean "You can redistribute this under CC-BY 4.0 with your name on
> it, if you want" or "We grant you this under the CC-BY 4.0". I'm not
> even sure if that is a meaningful distinction in copyright law. If the
> former is actually correct, does this require me as a Guix dev to add a
> COPYING file distributing the font under CC-BY 4.0 under my name or
> what? Can I say truthfully that the source .zip file containing the
> fonts is under the CC-BY 4.0 ?

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Re: Open Government Data License & CC-BY 4.0

[Alex Vong]

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Alex Vong <alexvong1995@gmail.com> writes:

> Hello Brendan,
>
> If I understand correctly, CC-BY 4.0 is a non-copyleft license. Since
> the license is compatible with CC-BY 4.0, it is also a permissive
> license. So I think using 'license:non-copyleft' should work.
>
Also, you can add a comment stating that the license is compatible with
CC-BY 4.0 likes how Debian does it.

>> ng0 於 2017-04-25 17:47 寫道:
>>>
>>> CC-BY 3.0 is in Guix. Unless something fundamental changed in 4.0, 4.0
>>> should be okay to add in the variants which are not CC-BY-NC.
>>>
>>> Licenses can be added in guix/licenses.scm
>> Well the license seems to be compatible with CC-BY 4.0 because it
>> explicitly states so in clause 4.2. Or is it compatible as a matter of
>> fact and that clause is simply pointing it out, and so it may also be
>> compatible with CC-BY 3.0? When we assign a license in a Guix package
>> definition, my understanding is that this is a statement saying
>> effectively "If you look in the source tar.gz, you will see that this
>> package is in fact licensed under ... license, perhaps in the COPYING
>> file". If I set the license to CC-BY 4.0, would that be claiming the
>> Taiwanese government has issued the font under that license. Does clause
>> 4.2 mean "You can redistribute this under CC-BY 4.0 with your name on
>> it, if you want" or "We grant you this under the CC-BY 4.0". I'm not
>> even sure if that is a meaningful distinction in copyright law. If the
>> former is actually correct, does this require me as a Guix dev to add a
>> COPYING file distributing the font under CC-BY 4.0 under my name or
>> what? Can I say truthfully that the source .zip file containing the
>> fonts is under the CC-BY 4.0 ?

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