From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Darrington Subject: Re: Being excellent to one another Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 10:54:47 +0100 Message-ID: <20170320095447.GA22437@jocasta.intra> References: <20170316204527.lnkgc2vot4uqk633@abyayala> <20170317053620.GA16076@jocasta.intra> <20170317162131.GA4354@jasmine> <20170317175802.GB30584@jocasta.intra> <20170318110952.xhhobwl5ep4mlbpj@abyayala> <878to27laf.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <87inn499gk.fsf@dustycloud.org> <20170319195707.175eb056@khaalida> <20170320063619.GA20517@jocasta.intra> <878to0fhr3.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0F1p//8PRICkK4MW" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52258) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cpu1i-0007RQ-N1 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2017 05:54:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cpu1e-00018w-QR for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2017 05:54:58 -0400 Received: from de.cellform.com ([88.217.224.109]:33119 helo=jocasta.intra) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cpu1e-00018a-HV for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2017 05:54:54 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <878to0fhr3.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Alex Sassmannshausen Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 09:57:04AM +0100, Alex Sassmannshausen wrote: > > ... and yes. If an individual specifically requests to be referred = to by > a partcular set of pronouns I will attempt to do so, but may occasio= nally > forget if that person wants feminine pronouns and is 6'4" and has an= enormous > black wiry beard. =20 [I really don't know what your intention is with that last paragraph ?= ?? I will just ignore it, as I wouldn't want to ascribe malice???] OMG! What is wrong here? Why would you (or anyone) think this is malicious= ? The=20 intention, which I thought was clear, is that if people make unusual reques= ts we should try to accommodate those requests, but the requestor should not be suprised or offended if people don't always remember. Surely that was obvi= ous? It is the same with the Linux vs. GNU/Linux thing. When speaking for GNU,= I request people to say GNU/Linux when talking about the operating system. H= owever, I recognise that some people have been exposed to "Linux" for a long time, = and it is hard to break the habit of a lifetime instantly. Therefore, I don't= jump on someone saying "Gotcha" if they once forget. I will however give them a polite and gentle reminder. Regarding your other comments, as we have discussed before, we will have to agree to disagree about singular they. I have not the benefit of ever=20 having learned English as a foreign language. But I do remember in my elem= entary school being taught NOT to use it *especially* not in written text. And -= =20 perhaps because of this early tuition - it still sounds clumsy and confusin= g to=20 me. People having been talking about being "welcoming". Well, I beleive the way to achieve that is threefold: 1. Try not to offend. 2. Try not to be offended. 3. Recognise that diversity is an asset. J' --=20 Avoid eavesdropping. Send strong encrypted email. PGP Public key ID: 1024D/2DE827B3=20 fingerprint =3D 8797 A26D 0854 2EAB 0285 A290 8A67 719C 2DE8 27B3 See http://sks-keyservers.net or any PGP keyserver for public key. --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAljPpucACgkQimdxnC3oJ7NMbACfS69yskSNdSkVKlwIK7yYbV3f 618AoIqygB8o5TFX4hv6mKBNPTLezUw2 =3Cjm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW--