From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ng0 Subject: Re: grammar usage Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 11:31:21 +0000 Message-ID: <20170317113121.k5sck2xfipkhqxpw@abyayala> References: <20170305145026.zgoayn46kvpz5ksy@abyayala> <20170307214959.16038114@scratchpost.org> <87r3284x8s.fsf@lassieur.org> <87h92t1qts.fsf@gnu.org> <20170316204527.lnkgc2vot4uqk633@abyayala> <20170317053620.GA16076@jocasta.intra> <20170317110804.fxe6s2dpiw4pvwu5@abyayala> <20170317102809.GA26719@jocasta.intra> <87o9x0mare.fsf@igalia.com> <20170317111236.GA27220@jocasta.intra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50896) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coq6W-0001zn-IC for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 07:31:33 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coq6T-0002i3-E6 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 07:31:32 -0400 Received: from fragranza.investici.org ([178.175.144.26]:44784) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coq6T-0002gf-1q for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 07:31:29 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170317111236.GA27220@jocasta.intra> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: John Darrington Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org John Darrington transcribed 2.2K bytes: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 11:57:09AM +0100, Andy Wingo wrote: > Hello John, > > Hello Andy, > > Misgendering a guix contributor is rude. > > If deliberate, I agree that misgendering anyone, guix contributor or not, would > be rude. So I have never done so. > > On the grand scale of things it is worse than what you perceive to be misuse of language. > > I don't know what you mean by "it" in the above sentence. If you mean rudeness, > then I agree. If you mean an inadvertent misgendering of a person then I do not. > Sometime ago, due to a misunderstanding I received a series of emails addressing > me as Frau Darrington. I did not feel offended or insulted at all, and I cannot > imagine anyone would feel that way. > > Continuing to advocate for your idea on what good English is is unwelcome behavior, > > Perhaps. But why is it only advocacy of *my* opinion which is unwelcome whereas > that of others is perfectly acceptable? I feel that I am being victimised here. > > especially when this advocacy ignores the issue of misgendering. > > That opinion I do reject. I think that the occasional, inadvertent reference > to a person with a pronoun of the incorrect gender scores very low on the scale > of world problems. It is certainly no worse that refering to that person with > a pronoun of the wrong grammatical number. > > I'm sorry that we cannot agree on this subject, but as it is orthogonal to the > remit of this mailing list, I suggest that we drop the subject and not bring > it up again. > > J' > > > > -- > Avoid eavesdropping. Send strong encrypted email. > PGP Public key ID: 1024D/2DE827B3 > fingerprint = 8797 A26D 0854 2EAB 0285 A290 8A67 719C 2DE8 27B3 > See http://sks-keyservers.net or any PGP keyserver for public key. > For the record, as this is public and I can point to it as a case for others: Please search Duckduckgo/searx/Google for either of "cis-privileges", "cis privileges" "cisgender privilege" and educate yourselves about it. This is my last answer to this subthread. Thanks Andy.