From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Darrington Subject: Re: Leaving the guix project Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:05:04 +0100 Message-ID: <20170217140504.GA21590@jocasta.intra> References: <87o9y29svy.fsf@igalia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44109) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cejA5-0007sW-M0 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:05:26 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cejA1-0005pU-6b for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:05:25 -0500 Received: from de.cellform.com ([88.217.224.109]:59055 helo=jocasta.intra) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cejA0-0005hC-Uf for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:05:21 -0500 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: David Craven Cc: guix-devel --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 01:56:04PM +0100, David Craven wrote: > I think if you posit a free software project that works in the way y= ou > describe ("on its own"), it would work very much like Guile works > right now. =20 An operating system has to work on all hardware. Asking people to buy a RYF approved device to run guixsd is no different than apple requiring= you to buy an apple computer to run mac os x. Turning guixsd into an embed= ded system for RYF devices is not something I want to spend time and effor= t on. I can't with good conscience recommend to people to buy a usb wifi adapt= er to use guixsd when I believe they have much larger privacy issues in thei= r devices. So far as I'm aware, nobody has ever said that Guix may not run on devices = which are not RYF approved. I have indeed run it quite sucessfully on devices which are = not. =20 To be comfortable contributing to a free project I need to know that p= eople are able to do whatever THEY want, with those contributions, and not what = the FSF wants.=20 I agree. And I think that both Guix and the FSF has been very carefull not= to=20 impose any usage restrictions on users. (there have been calls to add restr= ictions forbidding use by military/nuclear/extremist-political groups but those hav= e been definitively rejected.) With the single exception of preventing a third party doing whatever they w= ant, people ARE able to do with it whatever they want. Is it this exception yo= u=20 are concerned about or somthing else? --=20 Avoid eavesdropping. Send strong encrypted email. PGP Public key ID: 1024D/2DE827B3=20 fingerprint =3D 8797 A26D 0854 2EAB 0285 A290 8A67 719C 2DE8 27B3 See http://sks-keyservers.net or any PGP keyserver for public key. --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlinAxAACgkQimdxnC3oJ7PWKgCfTLeUfxqSX2dMHVLt1Hk57+gS 8qQAn1UK1XpGg7ylH1tISS7LNdbqX2B6 =Y8V+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8--