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From: ng0 <contact.ng0@cryptolab.net>
To: Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: server and client in one package -> security issue (was: Add murmur)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:31:47 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170212123147.odpfawkb6gosh2bx@wasp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <96fa2c02-f5da-d4f5-6074-04b29f5376fb@crazy-compilers.com>

On 17-02-12 13:23:09, Hartmut Goebel wrote:
> Am 09.02.2017 um 23:50 schrieb Ludovic Courtès:
> > I think the only reason to separate things usually is size, not
> > “aesthetics.”  So I’d be in favor of keeping both in the same output if
> > there’s no size problem.
> 
> Separating clients and servers is not an "aesthetic" thing. It's a
> matter of security.
> 
> One basic rule for hardening systems is: "only install the required
> software". If we munge server and clients packages, this obeys this rule.
> 
> In my day-business I'm a security consultant (CISSP, CSSLP  and ISO
> 27001 Lead Implementer). And from my point of view Guix already has a
> medium problem of acceptance since it munges development-files and
> run-time files into one package - as we do for all libraries. This
> already contradicts the above mentioned basic rule.
> 
> Now if Guix starts munging server and client components into one
> package, this plain disqualifies GuixSD from any security sensitive
> system. [*]
> 
> [*] OTOH it opens up chances for big business: selling "Secure GuixSD"
> to customers.
> 
> -- 
> Regards
> Hartmut Goebel
> 
> | Hartmut Goebel          | h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com               |
> | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |
> 
> 

Exactly why I think we should do this, with a more detailed reasoning.
Thanks!
-- 
ng0 -- https://www.inventati.org/patternsinthechaos/

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-12 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-01 20:43 Add murmur contact.ng0
2017-02-01 20:43 ` [PATCH] gnu: mumble: Add 'murmur' output contact.ng0
2017-02-01 21:15 ` Add murmur ng0
2017-02-09 16:50 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-09 18:20   ` ng0
2017-02-09 22:50     ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-10 21:39       ` ng0
2017-02-10 21:54         ` Marius Bakke
2017-02-10 22:15           ` ng0
2017-02-11 14:31             ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-11 14:39               ` ng0
2017-02-12 13:37                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-12 13:53                   ` ng0
2017-02-12 13:57                     ` David Craven
2017-02-12 14:02                       ` ng0
2017-02-12 14:37                         ` David Craven
2017-02-12 17:01                           ` Hartmut Goebel
2017-02-12 17:42                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2017-02-13 14:15                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-12 17:54                             ` David Craven
2017-02-14 10:13                               ` Hartmut Goebel
2017-02-14  9:00                   ` ng0
2017-02-12 12:23       ` server and client in one package -> security issue (was: Add murmur) Hartmut Goebel
2017-02-12 12:31         ` ng0 [this message]
2017-02-12 12:53           ` David Craven
2017-02-12 16:52             ` server and client in one package -> security issue Hartmut Goebel
2017-02-13 14:13         ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-14 10:28           ` Hartmut Goebel
2017-02-14 11:19             ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-14  9:16         ` server and client in one package -> security issue (was: Add murmur) Danny Milosavljevic
2017-02-14  9:51           ` ng0
2017-02-14 10:44           ` server and client in one package -> security issue Hartmut Goebel
2017-04-24  7:01             ` Maxim Cournoyer

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