From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Darrington Subject: Re: Graphical Installer - Call for Testing. Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2017 09:05:44 +0100 Message-ID: <20170107080544.GA15438@jocasta.intra> References: <20170104075928.GA23509@jocasta.intra> <867f67lxky.fsf@gmail.com> <20170106215024.GA32389@jocasta.intra> <86vatrhatc.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0F1p//8PRICkK4MW" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57226) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cPm0i-0001Po-1V for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2017 03:05:57 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cPm0d-0001Rg-MI for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2017 03:05:56 -0500 Received: from de.cellform.com ([88.217.224.109]:55367 helo=jocasta.intra) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cPm0d-0001RR-9G for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2017 03:05:51 -0500 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86vatrhatc.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: myglc2 Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 06, 2017 at 09:18:39PM -0500, myglc2 wrote: > 1) Add a user configuration menu/form? > > That should be fairly straightforward. But I wonder if it wouldn't = be easier for > people to add them after the system is installed and run guix system > reconfigure ? =20 I agree user management is downstream of the install. But in practice I need an "admin" user with sudo/su to manage a headless server. Otherwi= se I would have to allow login to root over ssh or use the console. =20 So in practice all I do at the console is provide root and admin passwords. If you made it easy to create a single admin user that wou= ld be very handy. The debian install does this. Yeah and in debian one cannot avoid but add a user. And to me this is anno= ying since all my clients are LDAP managed so after I have installed a client, t= he first thing I do is to delete the user which I was forced to create. But I will add a page to add users before the "real thing" is released, but it will be a strictly optional step. =20 BTW, I see you followed the doc and set ... =20 (lsh-service #:port-number 2222) =20 ... for the Headless server. I don't think this is desirable. The user will want to ssh into their nice new headless GuixSD server and this non-standard port is sure to shoot novice users in the foot. Yes, I wonder what the rationale for this port number was? =20 > Perhaps we could add a page which would allow users to add arbitrary= packages > to the system profile. =20 That would be very nice. FWIW, I attach a recent system config to illustrate some packages that I would find useful. I'll also add a "Select additional packages for system profile" page, but= =20 again it'll be an optional step. =20 > This time I tried to set up the HD from scratch. I successfully= deleted > old partitions and created new partitions. It was not clear how= much I > needed to know (e.g., do I need to mark a partition bootable?) > > Since I'm currently just execing cfdisk, I don't have much control > over that. =20 My point is that we probably need to provide very basic guidance as regards the minimum buttons a user need to push to get the system up. Maybe this could be in a sidebar on the relevant screens? I will think about how that could perhaps be done. =20 just couldn't figure out how to get back to the main thread and comple= te the install. Was I missing something? Or this is a bug? Probably both. If you couldn't figure something out, then it's a bad user interface. I'll re-think that bit of it. J' =20 --=20 Avoid eavesdropping. Send strong encrypted email. PGP Public key ID: 1024D/2DE827B3=20 fingerprint =3D 8797 A26D 0854 2EAB 0285 A290 8A67 719C 2DE8 27B3 See http://sks-keyservers.net or any PGP keyserver for public key. --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlhwoVgACgkQimdxnC3oJ7NaggCff6d9wcJtZiaGSMDEZ/YD2njb 1OoAnAwnNQMaGC1oDFoVYudn26PAVILl =iRyz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW--