From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Leo Famulari Subject: Re: Removing the attic package Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 14:44:16 -0400 Message-ID: <20160904184416.GB29947@jasmine> References: <20160904021256.GA21539@jasmine> <874m5vvmi8.fsf@we.make.ritual.n0.is> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46850) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bgcPB-0005wk-A5 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2016 14:44:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bgcP7-0003jk-Uq for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2016 14:44:33 -0400 Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]:52203) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bgcP5-0003hZ-9V for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2016 14:44:29 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <874m5vvmi8.fsf@we.make.ritual.n0.is> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: ng0 Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org On Sun, Sep 04, 2016 at 01:10:39PM +0000, ng0 wrote: > There has been no update since 2015. Can the current status of the bug > (solved? unsolved? wontfix? work in progress?) be requested from the > upstream developer(s)? The upstream developer has not replied to the bug report [0]. I think we can assume "wontfix" after 11 months. > Otherwise the bug reads like we should include it in our package > description, pointing out that it is currently limited to 15GB backup > (if that's what this was about, I did not read all of it). The bug is that if your disk becomes full, the backup repository will be permanently corrupted, and you will *lose all your backups*. I think the project is abandoned, even though it has only been ~15 months since the last public commit, which is not really that long if the software is working well. But, it's not working well; this is a critical bug. Here is some context: I was following Attic development before it stopped. There were several Attic users who wanted to assist with Attic development, but the Attic author explicitly rejected their help [1]. It appears that the Attic author abandoned Attic after the Borg fork. I don't want to steer new users towards this broken software, and I think removing the package is a safe choice. Current Attic users could continue to use it, because it won't be removed from their profile unless they do `guix package --remove attic`. And Borg can convert Attic repos for users who are interested in moving on, so these users will not lose access to their data even if they do uninstall Attic on their machines. Do we have any guidelines about "retiring" packages? [0] https://github.com/jborg/attic/issues/356 [1] https://github.com/jborg/attic/issues/217#issuecomment-78091278