From: Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl>
To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Guix-devel <guix-devel-bounces+me=tobias.gr@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: none
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:07:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160722110739.GA12722@thebird.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb7285ff5344262a6214c63dd1395a48@tobias.gr>
On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 06:48:47AM +0200, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote:
> In the spirit of (friendly) provocation, I'd nitpick on the term
> ‘purist views’ and suggest the word ‘standards’ instead. ;-)
Alright. I concede ;)
> But seriously: the code reviews? Most Free software projects don't
> do nearly enough. Also, most Free software projects su^W should.
The number of contributors is not going up as fast as it should. I
have been quite exasparated with every package I submitted. Does that
mean I should stop packaging? Note that I actually like packaging, but
I feel mentally blocked to submit to the ML... Should we really leave
it to those that are more inclined to do the dance?
> >license, github etc.
>
> I've not seen any licence purism (yet) either. Anything Free, goes.
> No?
Yes, but there are also non-free packages in our repo. They do not
have to go in GNU Guix. I am a great fan of the FSF and GNU. I think
GNU Guix is pure genius. I always choose free over non-free. But we
also have to be pragmatic.
> I'm curious why GitHub's in that list. Sure, the upstream Guix
> repository isn't going to move there any time soon. There's no
> compelling reason to do so, and not relying on someone else's
> good-will is always a good idea. Not relying on someone else's
> proprietary secret SaaS is simply common sense. But I haven't
> seen any purist elitism towards GitHub users. I'm one.
People don't like github because it is non-free.
> >I understand the need for purism, and applaud the idea, but we are
> >throwing up too many barriers.
> >
> >Because GNU Guix is an extreme, ...
>
> Wow. I don't see that. At all.
Everything FSF and/or GNU is pretty extreme ;). It is a good thing. I
buy into it when I can. Barriers are there. Everyone is different, we
have to cater for that.
> As long as it's not a fork in any way: yes please!
We should consider a separate project that is aligned with trunk. I
don't want to divert, but to add to both.
Yellow-band Guix? With a Judoka embracing the Guix logo ;). 'A Guix
package project without an opinion' would be my choice of a slogan.
Judo instead of dancing.
I am not looking forward to having a separate project, but I don't see
much of an alternative. There will be a fear that actualy
contributions to GNU Guix can go down - there is that risk - but my
aim is to get more acceptance and contributors and eventually we all
gain. I am not worried about QA. Work can be self correcting - we
see that a lot.
I had a mug that said 'Stop me before I volunteer again'. This is one
of those moments... But I may just do it.
Pj.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-07-22 11:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-21 1:39 (unknown) Unknown, Pjotr Prins
2016-07-21 1:42 ` [PATCH] gnu: Add elixir Pjotr Prins
2016-07-21 11:43 ` Ben Woodcroft
2016-07-21 12:00 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-22 5:26 ` Leo Famulari
2016-07-22 12:55 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-22 14:12 ` Leo Famulari
2016-07-21 12:51 ` none Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-22 0:41 ` none Pjotr Prins
2016-07-22 2:06 ` none Pjotr Prins
2016-07-22 3:25 ` none Jookia
2016-07-22 3:48 ` none Leo Famulari
2016-07-22 4:48 ` none Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-22 11:07 ` Pjotr Prins [this message]
2016-07-22 12:23 ` none Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-22 12:50 ` none Jookia
2016-07-22 21:19 ` none Leo Famulari
2016-07-24 4:17 ` none Jookia
2016-07-24 6:35 ` none Leo Famulari
2016-07-24 7:47 ` none Jookia
2016-07-24 16:52 ` none Christopher Allan Webber
2016-07-24 17:03 ` none Andreas Enge
2016-07-22 8:15 ` none Roel Janssen
2016-07-22 14:07 ` none Leo Famulari
2016-07-22 14:15 ` none Vincent Legoll
2016-07-22 16:13 ` none Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-22 16:38 ` none myglc2
2016-07-23 7:03 ` none Tomáš Čech
2016-07-22 16:02 ` Review process Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-23 2:24 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-23 9:05 ` Alex Kost
2016-07-23 9:51 ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-07-24 8:02 ` Alex Kost
2016-07-24 10:38 ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-07-24 14:09 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-24 3:30 ` A registry for distributed sources and binaries Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24 5:10 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-24 5:16 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24 5:24 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24 5:29 ` Mark H Weaver
2016-07-24 5:48 ` Jookia
2016-07-24 6:37 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-24 7:49 ` Jookia
2016-07-24 20:02 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-24 6:28 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-24 7:02 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24 7:29 ` Leo Famulari
2016-07-24 7:41 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24 9:50 ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-07-24 22:46 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-24 13:58 ` Andreas Enge
2016-07-24 15:21 ` Jookia
2016-07-24 15:58 ` Andreas Enge
2016-07-24 17:18 ` replying to a message of a mailing list you were not subscribed to Danny Milosavljevic
2016-07-24 17:25 ` Danny Milosavljevic
2016-07-25 5:38 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-25 7:34 ` icecat "mailto" handler does not work - and cannot be reconfigured by user Danny Milosavljevic
2020-10-13 13:23 ` bug#24066: " Maxim Cournoyer
2016-07-24 18:50 ` A registry for distributed sources and binaries John Darrington
2016-07-25 9:14 ` Replying to bug reports Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-25 8:25 ` A registry for distributed sources and binaries Andy Wingo
2016-07-25 22:00 ` Reviewer assignment Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-24 20:35 ` A registry for distributed sources and binaries Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-25 2:10 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-25 3:42 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-25 4:57 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-25 7:18 ` Tomáš Čech
2016-07-25 9:21 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-26 3:40 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-26 3:45 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-25 6:13 ` [PATCH] Add Elixir (was: ) Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-25 6:31 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-28 7:27 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-28 8:30 ` Vincent Legoll
2016-07-28 10:35 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-28 20:35 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-29 2:38 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-29 6:32 ` Vincent Legoll
2016-08-02 8:56 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-02 14:30 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-08-02 8:44 ` [PATCH] Add Elixir Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-02 14:29 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-08-02 17:26 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-08-02 21:25 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-03 4:41 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-08-09 11:18 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-08-09 11:58 ` Alex Sassmannshausen
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-07-23 9:15 none David Craven
2015-03-25 22:49 (unknown), Tomáš Čech
2015-03-26 21:22 ` none Ludovic Courtès
2015-03-26 21:52 ` none Tomáš Čech
2014-12-03 18:02 (unknown) Tomas Cech
2014-12-04 23:04 ` none Ludovic Courtès
2014-12-05 8:35 ` none Tomas Cech
2014-12-06 14:06 ` none Ludovic Courtès
2014-02-11 22:17 Gnunet-0.10.0 recipe Sree Harsha Totakura
2014-02-12 15:15 ` (unknown), Sree Harsha Totakura
2014-02-12 17:36 ` none Ludovic Courtès
2014-02-12 17:38 ` none Sree Harsha Totakura
2014-02-12 19:25 ` none Andreas Enge
2014-02-12 20:30 ` none Ludovic Courtès
2014-02-12 20:53 ` none Andreas Enge
2014-02-04 15:12 (unknown), John Darrington
2014-02-04 20:47 ` none Ludovic Courtès
2014-02-05 16:17 ` none Mark H Weaver
2014-02-05 17:38 ` none John Darrington
2014-02-05 18:35 ` none Ludovic Courtès
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