From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Efraim Flashner Subject: Re: Too many questions about texlive-texmf Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 11:21:21 +0300 Message-ID: <20160711082121.GC17662@debian-netbook> References: <20160710185100.GA4707@jasmine> <87bn2439jp.fsf@elephly.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NKoe5XOeduwbEQHU" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39123) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bMWT9-00008I-P5 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 04:21:36 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bMWT6-0002NO-Jf for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 04:21:35 -0400 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:38082) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bMWT6-0002Lw-DJ for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 04:21:32 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87bn2439jp.fsf@elephly.net> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Ricardo Wurmus Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org --NKoe5XOeduwbEQHU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 09:42:34AM +0200, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: >=20 > Leo Famulari writes: >=20 > > We don't serve substitutes of texlive-texmf. We achieve this by > > configuring nginx to return "410 Gone" [0]. > > > > This requires users to build it with '--fallback', and the Guix error > > message even recommends this, but many users ask about it on IRC. > > > > I think we should mark it '#:substitutable? #f' so that, IIUC, Guix will > > download and build texlive-texmf from the upstream source automatically, > > without stopping or requiring users to use '--fallback'. >=20 > Does this cause substitutes to be disabled for all packages that depend > on texlive-texmf? >=20 > ~~ Ricardo >=20 I don't know. Among the packages based on this is libreoffice, which I'm guessing many people who would use it would never install it if they always needed to build it from source. Based on the notes in maths.scm on openblas, `#:substitutable? #f' also disables offloading, so while we don't want to serve the file from hydra, we don't want to prevent people from offloading the build to a more powerful machine. Is there a way that we can mark that it hasn't been built yet on hydra? Or can we change the error message for when it fails to download a file from hydra to: Package "foo" failed to download. This may be because: 1. not yet built on hydra 2. fails to build, please help fix 3. broken pipe, try again If you would like to try building it on your machine to work around 1 or 3, please add '--fallback' to your command. --=20 Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --NKoe5XOeduwbEQHU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXg1b+AAoJEPTB05F+rO6TZlIQAIuXeCOwRxaVgatFpuf3kQX9 uXHV1liCwPsRqYc2sig4ai9dcUuMqfTFduTpjom0icn1ug8aNu/3y+GKQaZ6I4Hm uYOizgRQgW3We4E2UmfLldygO8mzAiDMumAEO6xe5o8fJglWbUPDhVJIUheWjMl8 vbPQwSbesq7DE7JZrQTunMAm2Wo4KOCmOW+w4BscMV6ZEDtVR2/5I4LWJJlH9PEN 4/p31OU/y22uADoETzGpLArKNoQQodGWE70xWkkmkzRkGWJnCbBPuqFEc87SmylQ d4HlRAb7iNu5fXmrONxAebSRT7bi+/kUtLvOYN/2MAgd0xJKEN4J7bt0OySN38If VhaYRS+DfnbfH24OYqcZcWHK2oUobvnT8b/fQLZ/lelCR45HLiLuLogbZb8xYUX8 ZJftZ91jGoNMjFbP2a818RIuM+kZv7ZyYMZ2HYXsq0O0634y57gnlN28MZPgzIMy HCw8ERX/fSD8J0P2NhhMZ7lPtsABVSyQJSfmIiRXPw+5gVUlhU2cuKeg83v5Yrxh a+1sz9RQ21/HjomX35XUpp5uwYC9S3g+mVt5W5yAQOoT0POg5JRq/oJL8jdCtaVD ll4OVvEnoZaUqQUK/bwUn04B7b4+aoYbCFpS7ZEnSzITbbZdywiEP0NOw4XbYt/j HNixewL+ExiIUAEh0vjV =oCtq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NKoe5XOeduwbEQHU--