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From: Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@scratchpost.org>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Implementing guix system rollback / switch-generation
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 11:21:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160613112138.6a76d09b@scratchpost.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k2hul5hc.fsf@gnu.org>

Hi,

On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 18:46:55 +0200
ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) wrote:

> So we assume the latest GRUB always “works”, and we generate a grub.cfg
> with a menu list all the older generations, which is rather convenient
> from the UI viewpoint, I think.

It's definitely convenient. Back when I enabled home encryption GuixSD didn't boot multiple times. Having the older generations there saved me from a system reinstallation / restore.

However, I think the actual point is to have all the "update" actions be atomic. Because there's something in the Linux kernel config (only on GuixSD; works just fine on Ubuntu) which makes my laptop crashy (on the first larger disk write after standby wakeup) I have some experience with Guix non-atomicity and let me tell you it's not good. (Just the other day it broke the substitute cache - so I couldn't use substitutes at all anymore; I've since found and deleted the cache directory contents)

Therefore, while I wouldn't replace (or re-symlink) the entire /boot on guix reconfiguration (it might be on its own partition, too), it *may* be useful to use include files and put these there atomically, one file per version. I'm not sure whether grub supports something like "include *.inc" with wildcards but that would be an idea.

For the record: atomically creating an important file means:
- write content into tempfile, if necessary into a subdir of the correct drive (where the finished file will be)
- fdatasync
- rename tempfile to have finished name (atomically)

Also without the include files it's fine to use one larger grub.cfg and update it like described.

I think that the monolithic grub.cfg is fine.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-13  9:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-05 22:29 Implementing guix system rollback / switch-generation Chris Marusich
2016-06-06  8:10 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-06-09  7:19   ` Chris Marusich
2016-06-12 16:46     ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-06-13  9:21       ` Danny Milosavljevic [this message]
2016-06-13 15:00         ` Atomic file updates Ludovic Courtès
2016-06-06 12:10 ` Implementing guix system rollback / switch-generation Leo Famulari

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