On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 09:03:30AM -0400, Thompson, David wrote: I'm with Ricardo. Separating things into things for "users" and things for "developers" just re-establishes the dichotomy that we intend to blur, and insist isn't really there in the first place. We want to encourage users to hack the system, not cordon off a section of tools and say "these aren't for you." Surely there are improvements that can be made without sacrificing this. The conventional school of usability is not focused on making users more computer literate, so we need to take a different route. I do take your point here, and I am fully in agreement that the distinction between users and developers is an artificial one which we should not maintain. But there are always going to be categories of tasks which are closely related to one another, other tasks which are only loosely related and some which are not related at all. The idea is to make the user interface intuitive, not to dissuade people from using them. J' -- Avoid eavesdropping. Send strong encryted email. PGP Public key ID: 1024D/2DE827B3 fingerprint = 8797 A26D 0854 2EAB 0285 A290 8A67 719C 2DE8 27B3 See http://sks-keyservers.net or any PGP keyserver for public key.