From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jean Louis Subject: Re: MAME emulator is giving incentive to use non-free software Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:52:51 +0200 Message-ID: <20160329145251.GB26383@protected.rcdrun.com> References: <20160328215516.GA27719@protected.rcdrun.com> <20160329002620.GB6484@jookia-eeepc.Home> <20160329044242.GA1239@protected.rcdrun.com> <20160329062711.GA17752@jookia-eeepc.Home> <20160329073040.GA20807@protected.rcdrun.com> <20160329082522.GA10814@jookia-eeepc.Home> <20160329120051.GD13512@protected.rcdrun.com> <87h9fpnz1o.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34578) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akv2C-0000NT-Lv for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 10:54:26 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akv2B-0001ex-Jv for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 10:54:20 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87h9fpnz1o.fsf@gnu.org> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Mathieu Lirzin Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Hello Mathieu, On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 04:23:15PM +0200, Mathieu Lirzin wrote: > When talking to people contributing to a GNU project which consists of = a > FSDG compliant package manager and distribution, this is not good > communication to suggest that =E2=80=9Cthey=E2=80=9D don't understand t= he true meaning > of Free Software. I think it would be better to just say that accordin= g > to your interpretation of FSDG, Guix should not distribute MAME. I agree, and I expressed only my opinions, yes. > I have no interest in MAME, but refusing to distribute it makes > assumption about what people are going to use it for. The fact that > apparently =E2=80=9Cmost=E2=80=9D people are running non-free stuff on = top of it, is not > a valid argument in term of software freedom or compliance with FSDG. > It could be valid for other ethical issues but IMO Guix should focus > only on Free Software ethics. I am find if it is going to be solved by a compliance officer. I can assume you have verified it for compliance. Please also reconsider if than free software distribution shall include malware GPL licensed software, because we cannot know neither assume that people are going to use it for malware purposes, even though it is malware. And how is MAME teaching people about free software? This section of FSDG to me does not appear in alignment with your conclusions. Observe also the trademark issues that I have mentioned, and compare to Mac Os on Linux package, removed due to running only proprietary software: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/List_of_software_that_does_not_respect_the_F= ree_System_Distribution_Guidelines#Monkey.27s_Audio_Codec and https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/index.php?28332 Jean Louis