From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jean Louis Subject: MAME emulator is giving incentive to use non-free software Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 23:55:16 +0200 Message-ID: <20160328215516.GA27719@protected.rcdrun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42616) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akf9L-0008Jk-5y for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 17:56:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akf9G-00065a-Pz for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 17:56:39 -0400 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:50092) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akf9G-00065U-JR for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 17:56:34 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: guix-devel@gnu.org I have already sent request to FSF to review this issue. But here it is for the list. I am free software user. I don't want my children to find MAME on my computer. I have 3 children. They will be using free software distributions, with free software BIOS on free hardware. I don't want my children to find MAME on computer. I don't want them to search for software in GuixSD and find MAME, and later to find ROMs, which are non-free. Including MAME or any other emulator, even though non-free as such, if such emulator is practically of no use to free software users without non-free additions or parts, firmware, blobs, or ROMs, is giving incentive to free software users to use non-free. Put yourself in the view point of free software user. What such user is going to do with WINE? What is he/she/it going to do practically with MAME? Nothing. They will have no use of that software. Single cases are exceptions. Exceptions may download it themselves, they don't need to get it delivered by free software distribution of GNU. My username is jmarciano. Please see discussion here: https://gnunet.org/bot/log/guix/2016-03-28 I cannot believe that MAME and WINE and such emulators are to be included in free software distributions. MAME clearly gives incentive to use non-free software. Further, that is hypocricy. I am on GNU system due to non-free software. And according to these guidelines here: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html there is, I cite: "Please Teach Users about Free Software To establish lasting freedom, just giving users freedom isn't sufficient. It is necessary also to teach them to understand what it means and to demand it. I am asking you to review and correct if possible, the inclusion of packages such as: WINE and MAME into GNU distribution GuixSD. Everybody can download WINE and MAME onto their computers. There may be legitimate reasons to use such software, but what about practical results? Enabling both WINE, MAME or any other emulator that requires non-free software to run, or that helps non-free software to run on free GNU distribution, is not in alignment with "teach them to understand what it means and to demand it". I am demanding it now. Jean Louis