From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Leo Famulari Subject: Re: [GSoC] Draft proposal for an Install Wizard for Guix Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 19:25:54 -0400 Message-ID: <20160327232554.GB19614@jasmine> References: <56F1AEF0.60304@mtu.edu> <871t6ypuuk.fsf@gnu.org> <56F55DE4.4000505@mtu.edu> <87mvpl31uk.fsf@gnu.org> <56F78298.7060806@mtu.edu> <86zitjg4e9.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58768) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akK4I-0000vQ-Ja for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 19:26:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akK4F-0008Ie-E9 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 19:26:02 -0400 Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:45166) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akK4F-0008Ia-Ai for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 19:25:59 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86zitjg4e9.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: myglc2 Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 02:30:22PM -0400, myglc2 wrote: > Thomas Ingram writes: > > > On 03/26/2016 07:39 AM, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > >> Personally, I would like to view the “wizard” as a helper, and not as > >> something that hides everything and turns people into “end users.” > > Wow, Ludo, what do you have against "end users"? Speaking for myself, one thing that I like about Guix and GuixSD are that they make it relatively easy to learn and alter the system, at least compared to some other GNU / Linux operating systems. By encouraging users to learn how to alter their system, they will unwittingly become computer programmers, which I think is beneficial for software freedom. I'd prefer that to a world where only 1% of people have the ability to effect change in software (the current situation). I understand the situation is not a dichotomy; our system should not be unnecessarily difficult to use.