From: Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Removing compilers that cannot be bootstrapped
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 20:22:35 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160326002235.GA3676@jasmine> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d1qi40me.fsf@gnu.org>
On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 12:08:09AM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> skribis:
>
> > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 03:49:33PM -0700, Christopher Allan Webber wrote:
> >> Ludovic Courtès writes:
> >>
> >> > Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org> skribis:
> >> >
> >> >> Let me give an even shorter-term solution: maybe there is a way to mark
> >> >> things as risky from a trust perspective when it comes to bootstrapping?
> >> >> Maybe we could do something like:
> >> >>
> >> >> (define-public ghc
> >> >> (package
> >> >> (name "ghc")
> >> >> (version "7.10.2")
> >> >> ;; [... bla bla ...]
> >> >> (properties '(("bootstrap-untrusted" #t)))))
> >> >
> >> > Why not, but what would be the correspond warning, and the expected
> >> > effect?
> >>
> >> A warning, or maybe even also a:
> >>
> >> guix package -i foo --only-reproducible
> >>
> >> which could error?
>
> Hmm or --only-traceable?
>
> > If we decide to do something like that, we should decide if we want the
> > word 'reproducible' to mean bit-for-bit reproducibility.
>
> The problem is that big binary blobs like GHC’s are necessarily
> bit-for-bit reproducible. :-)
`wget https://blob` doesn't count as reproducible :)
Another useful word could be 'deterministic'.
>
> Ludo’.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-26 0:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-21 17:54 Removing compilers that cannot be bootstrapped Thompson, David
2016-03-21 19:15 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2016-03-21 19:22 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2016-03-21 19:32 ` Andreas Enge
2016-03-21 22:43 ` rain1
2016-03-22 16:23 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-21 22:48 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-22 9:56 ` Jookia
2016-03-22 16:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-22 14:57 ` Eric Bavier
2016-03-22 16:22 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-22 22:29 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-03-23 22:12 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-23 22:49 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-03-24 3:11 ` Leo Famulari
2016-03-25 23:08 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-26 0:22 ` Leo Famulari [this message]
2016-03-26 6:40 ` Chris Marusich
2016-03-26 6:55 ` Chris Marusich
2016-03-26 9:02 ` Jookia
2016-03-26 14:05 ` Alex Vong
2016-03-26 8:12 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-03-26 9:23 ` Jookia
2016-03-26 14:31 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-26 17:19 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-03-26 6:51 ` John Darrington
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