From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pjotr Prins Subject: Re: Getting rid of build tools Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 02:47:23 +0100 Message-ID: <20151229014722.GA6686@thebird.nl> References: <20151227082320.GA613@thebird.nl> <87oadalfr7.fsf@dustycloud.org> <20151228190536.GA5914@thebird.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40222) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDjNx-0004ZB-Aa for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 20:47:38 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDjNu-0001Tn-5F for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 20:47:37 -0500 Received: from mail.thebird.nl ([95.154.246.10]:47526) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDjNt-0001Td-Vb for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 20:47:34 -0500 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20151228190536.GA5914@thebird.nl> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Pjotr Prins Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 08:05:36PM +0100, Pjotr Prins wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 09:06:40AM -0600, Christopher Allan Webber wrote: > I agree. It is actually in line with Eelco Dolstra's thinking more > than 10 years ago (he created 'Maak'), though he did not use Guile. > > I am not saying we don't need build tools altogether - I'll still use > make and rake, for example. But we certainly don't need all the > baggage that comes with the current set of 'complex' Makefile > generation tools that are automake and cmake. I guess it should be > somewhere in between :). Yes a configurable Guile solution would be > excellent. For anyone interested, Eelco's description of Maak, a functional make, is here: http://nixos.org/~eelco/pubs/iscsd-scm11-submitted.pdf --