From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: anonymiss Subject: Re: Moving to beta? When? Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 11:47:23 +0100 Message-ID: <20151220114723.4ffaa079@shadow_walker> References: <871tajkybm.fsf@dustycloud.org> <20151220100826.6fd8763f@debian-netbook> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57535) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aAbWY-0005o7-RF for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 05:47:35 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aAbWV-0005nA-0W for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 05:47:34 -0500 Received: from perdizione.investici.org ([2001:41d0:2:33d0::19]:60047) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aAbWU-0005n4-Nl for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 05:47:30 -0500 Received: from [94.23.50.208] (perdizione [94.23.50.208]) (Authenticated sender: anonymiss@grrlz.net) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0C6C4120FE1 for ; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 10:47:28 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <20151220100826.6fd8763f@debian-netbook> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: guix-devel@gnu.org > On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 10:08:26 +0200 > Efraim Flashner wrote: > > On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 19:40:29 -0600 > Christopher Allan Webber wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > Guix is super stable for me these days. In a sense, more stable > > than any other system I've ever run. We also are quickly moving to > > the point where *most* core packages people need are there. > > > > I think the Alpha label is too conservative. Once gnome-shell > > lands, or once the next release comes out, what do people think > > about Beta? > > I was going to save it for a 0.10 vs 1.0 debate, but here makes sense > also :) I think it also comes down to what are we missing? Not > necessarily for beta, but more as a list between "here" and "1.0 > worthy." > > gnome(-shell) and kde: I think many people would expect these I know some people who would expect a working full disk encryption with whatever they use, including myself. > > installer: I haven't looked at the gentoo or archlinux installer > recently, but ours looks similar in terms of "here's a shell, go > ahead and bootstrap it." Also we have some lingering issues > like /home on a different partition, actually partitioning and > formatting the device, and maybe more. I don't know about archlinux anymore, last time I tried it was even more simplified then I remembered (partition, bootstrap, other stuff, done), and Gentoo is also pretty forward (partly because the documentation is very good and leaves no questions at all. > > guix pull: super slow as-is :) going back to the gentoo comparison, > iirc gentoo rsyncs the svn repo, and we all know how fast `git pull > && make` is. > > anything else? > > > That still sounds like "not quite production ready for everyone" but > > Alpha hardly feels fair to Guix anymore. (The most alpha thing > > about GuixSD thing at this point is the install process, and hey, > > it's like going oldschool with my install again.... :)) > > > > Or, when to switch? > > - Chris > > > > On the other side, gnome-shell sounds like a good cut-off for beta. > -- -- NG. / anonymiss http://libertad.pw http://krosos.sdf.org gopher://sdf.org/1/users/krosos Email is public. Talk to me in private: https://psyced.org:34443/~anonymiss privacy respecting, secure communication: BM-2cSj8qEigE3CMaLU3CwPZf7T3LvzvnttsC (bitmessage)