From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Efraim Flashner Subject: Re: Moving to beta? When? Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 10:08:26 +0200 Message-ID: <20151220100826.6fd8763f@debian-netbook> References: <871tajkybm.fsf@dustycloud.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/Uzc0QP2swzGfA6GYI5E9rKj"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33306) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aAZ2j-0002sL-PE for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 03:08:38 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aAZ2f-0001AN-O6 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 03:08:37 -0500 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:45519) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aAZ2f-0001AG-I8 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 03:08:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: <871tajkybm.fsf@dustycloud.org> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Christopher Allan Webber Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org --Sig_/Uzc0QP2swzGfA6GYI5E9rKj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 19:40:29 -0600 Christopher Allan Webber wrote: > Hello all, >=20 > Guix is super stable for me these days. In a sense, more stable than > any other system I've ever run. We also are quickly moving to the point > where *most* core packages people need are there. >=20 > I think the Alpha label is too conservative. Once gnome-shell lands, or > once the next release comes out, what do people think about Beta? I was going to save it for a 0.10 vs 1.0 debate, but here makes sense also = :) I think it also comes down to what are we missing? Not necessarily for beta, but more as a list between "here" and "1.0 worthy." gnome(-shell) and kde: I think many people would expect these installer: I haven't looked at the gentoo or archlinux installer recently, but ours looks similar in terms of "here's a shell, go ahead and bootstrap it." Also we have some lingering issues like /home on a different partition, actually partitioning and formatting the device, and maybe more. guix pull: super slow as-is :) going back to the gentoo comparison, iirc gentoo rsyncs the svn repo, and we all know how fast `git pull && make` is. anything else? > That still sounds like "not quite production ready for everyone" but > Alpha hardly feels fair to Guix anymore. (The most alpha thing about > GuixSD thing at this point is the install process, and hey, it's like > going oldschool with my install again.... :)) >=20 > Or, when to switch? > - Chris >=20 On the other side, gnome-shell sounds like a good cut-off for beta. --=20 Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --Sig_/Uzc0QP2swzGfA6GYI5E9rKj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWdmH6AAoJEPTB05F+rO6TwKUP/3aqoZmSD8LdIX1xd669keSo sdQa1tluxLdXPKYATwbgw5aySerDpZ5nrAT4nQgJ2aqa6gQvqQQYLFGv1pi9lc56 5dfe9gyrPVLVKbr40lwG4cWOmMxPqDg4hxf6AAJNApHhAFkJoCohlVfGlzFjNolG c8pVjiwcyatPX3plG0Iul+Qbka8kf1Kw/Fm4Uqu+Yu7UucE11amBn7vnqHF70xUg EhrHwUZQ4ItB3NrumLjF/QzbMF7cQZXS8ku8KOd5LeaeyIxsNImtvsPphz93CMcR d0mC/Xgo4973D3e9RLnPGbrC3kaHDm8UDDdxJQ88/mIWLr9UbUosw8grNWI9vjLw qXowmx4s2BLgq0uyFV9Y1rffFRpW8EUaKAk+3UpAt2OMaIqumdk82kxHHchuZ2mv kr6AmciyS5RFFlvprW674MjeT5a4o0u9R0rDEkZSPxLIh0JA0y1WTc2jM6xi3xOf fwENap+lieGWdRDM3KlXsdyEWc05R3aMft+zfNoZ+9Ls/23HaQYx/NHgJt9oXlM/ yVilMMhWOrGVcZtNSpzRskoCMqsNwHmbWFni6mxR7Ql6GISGqrug77K+ycrCf3qQ vXEvHOmP8w48EFy20GO2z12FXaWmfroP1BANisnjGii41WgsQQZYyE5xxnwGBxHd IKzQwvQm4sxjV8ukGJqG =SbRB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Uzc0QP2swzGfA6GYI5E9rKj--