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From: Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il>
To: Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Moving to beta?  When?
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 10:08:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151220100826.6fd8763f@debian-netbook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871tajkybm.fsf@dustycloud.org>

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On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 19:40:29 -0600
Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org> wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> Guix is super stable for me these days.  In a sense, more stable than
> any other system I've ever run.  We also are quickly moving to the point
> where *most* core packages people need are there.
> 
> I think the Alpha label is too conservative.  Once gnome-shell lands, or
> once the next release comes out, what do people think about Beta?

I was going to save it for a 0.10 vs 1.0 debate, but here makes sense also :)
I think it also comes down to what are we missing? Not necessarily for beta,
but more as a list between "here" and "1.0 worthy."

gnome(-shell) and kde: I think many people would expect these

installer: I haven't looked at the gentoo or archlinux installer recently,
but ours looks similar in terms of "here's a shell, go ahead and bootstrap
it." Also we have some lingering issues like /home on a different partition,
actually partitioning and formatting the device, and maybe more.

guix pull: super slow as-is :) going back to the gentoo comparison, iirc
gentoo rsyncs the svn repo, and we all know how fast `git pull && make` is.

anything else?

> That still sounds like "not quite production ready for everyone" but
> Alpha hardly feels fair to Guix anymore.  (The most alpha thing about
> GuixSD thing at this point is the install process, and hey, it's like
> going oldschool with my install again.... :))
> 
> Or, when to switch?
>  - Chris
> 

On the other side, gnome-shell sounds like a good cut-off for beta.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-20  8:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-19  1:40 Moving to beta? When? Christopher Allan Webber
2015-12-20  8:08 ` Efraim Flashner [this message]
2015-12-20  8:19   ` Pjotr Prins
2015-12-20 10:47   ` anonymiss
2015-12-21  8:25   ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-12-21  9:55     ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-12-21 10:37     ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-12-20 10:41 ` Fabian Harfert
2015-12-20 22:07 ` Ludovic Courtès

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