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From: Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr>
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gnu: gnutls: Configure location of system-wide trust store
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 13:13:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140219121353.GA5707@debian.eduroam.u-bordeaux.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sirf8l6h.fsf@netris.org>

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 05:13:26AM -0500, Mark H Weaver wrote:
> However, GnuTLS does not support an environment variable setting, so we
> would have to patch the code (add_system_trust in lib/system.c).  I
> strongly considered doing this, but I'm worried about the possible
> security implications.  For example, consider a setuid program that uses
> GnuTLS and assumes that the person who ran the program will not be
> capable of changing the trust store that GnuTLS uses.  This assumption
> would be correct for the upstream GnuTLS, but not for ours.
> 
> Here's the thing: GnuTLS does not trust the system store by default.
> The program has to call 'gnutls_certificate_set_x509_system_trust' to
> use the system trust store.  Therefore, individual programs can still
> allow the user to override the system trust store.
> 
> For example, look at the code for 'wget' (ssl_init in src/gnutls.c).  If
> you put "ca_directory = <DIRECTORY>" in ~/.wgetrc, then wget does not
> call 'gnutls_certificate_set_x509_system_trust'.  Instead, it trusts
> only the certs in the specified user directory.

This is an interesting feature.

> So, in the end, I don't think we should mess around with the way GnuTLS
> was designed.  I think we should provide a hard-coded system-wide
> location to allow 'gnutls_certificate_set_x509_system_trust' to work as
> it was intended, and instead we should make sure that each individual
> program has a way to override that.

I am still uneasy with this situation, even more so as long as we do not
have the gnu system: Currently, the guix gnutls would point to the ssl
certificates that debian installed (or did not install) in /etc; we will
get behaviour that depends a lot on the outside system instead of being
self-contained.

Andreas

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-19 12:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-19  2:47 [PATCH] gnu: gnutls: Configure location of system-wide trust store Mark H Weaver
2014-02-19  9:26 ` Andreas Enge
2014-02-19 10:13   ` Mark H Weaver
2014-02-19 12:13     ` Andreas Enge [this message]
2014-02-19 13:40       ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-02-19 14:08         ` Andreas Enge
2014-02-19 14:37           ` Sree Harsha Totakura
2014-02-19 21:52           ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-02-20 19:39             ` Andreas Enge
2014-02-20 22:08               ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-02-20 18:01           ` Mark H Weaver
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-02-02 23:11 Mark H Weaver
2015-02-03  0:01 ` David Thompson
2015-02-03 20:53 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-02-03 20:57   ` Marek Benc
2015-02-04 12:36 ` Andreas Enge
2015-02-04 12:42   ` Andreas Enge
2015-02-04 15:35   ` Mark H Weaver
2015-02-05  9:59     ` Andreas Enge
2015-02-08 13:36     ` Andreas Enge
2015-02-08 14:29       ` Andreas Enge
2015-02-08 15:24         ` Andreas Enge
2015-02-08 15:59       ` Mark H Weaver
2015-02-15  5:17   ` Mark H Weaver
2015-02-15  9:16     ` Andreas Enge
2015-02-15 16:59       ` Mark H Weaver
2015-02-23 21:34         ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-02-24 20:31           ` Mark H Weaver
2015-02-25  0:25             ` Andreas Enge

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