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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1641958101; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=O6yVw3yAmIYKzZ2AUI2hOX4N385l5R+YlhDcGI45RIk=; b=J9vMrnt5tl/aObMAyt78Q3mcGFYjyGXVw5TsQesAwGGi6GkqjdmjeP005uvpta5YNZ2KKW SB91iisGkDMM3K/PYgfM3WuPvZKdfsQLGc/1fjmrDRSdHso3zK1sbbU3KXLu05HuVp7sya vrzc5BvCZoD7YwiXbtswND2k8Vs4s+bjo2im6xCy8kzwp2uoKiA8xGyTqMNTOmCS70gWTf ujinNQD2jYhlJ3Kc80WlJnr3xDWPScomhJbzGJOxQfH1W+ttTleFG3cJQVWeFcS+1mUR0I N4L90dTSeDbeYRbaGz9bloJmu4aab1uhyTStNiBMTBdVStO2QGAQmzvBUq652g== ARC-Seal: i=2; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1641958101; a=rsa-sha256; cv=fail; b=Hn17P8Z6PxtEnQ3KDlQskyXdmuqJccplxDoRzeGQMJZilaxGIZWcBFJvJvFnmGfp3ek6Ia eYIiJTjKVvQlvKsvx9xzOZUEEaj0Uf2T9+XlEydNFE22eXpSC9nlrKRNhFNlOW/MDZ4vcf WZUUxFYF4Kh41VktpMAGQbcq5z0TNbxo0QL4CKbOxoimSlYYju3I1QLednfDKdighewMIX 5XFV0smaZQ3XiIAS+2Qv6rRBaEKRMvU0fjvCiUZQfMltAjPkYIY5LsNaoS1UZBEbx/wDLZ rk6gxXVIfymLH9+4JL8CUvHDS8caYX6D0eRTFpxE0B0+5H6E/b4KzxxFpOMFyA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=2; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=excalamus.com header.s=zmail header.b=WnpdPjt3; arc=reject ("signature check failed: fail, {[1] = sig:zohomail.com:reject}"); dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.61 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=excalamus.com header.s=zmail header.b=WnpdPjt3; arc=reject ("signature check failed: fail, {[1] = sig:zohomail.com:reject}"); dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 53AE034C54 X-Spam-Score: -1.61 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: q0gP4J3Z9Wdq ---- On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 18:18:25 -0500 Ricardo Wurmus wrote ---- > This is where we disagree. I=E2=80=99ve wasted so much time in my life > following outdated or wrong instructions on forums or wikis. I really > don=E2=80=99t want to see anything half-baked anywhere near this project= . There > are few things that frustrate me more than well-meaning but misleading > advice. =20 Do you know that the libreplanet wiki is linked to from the main Guix page?= https://guix.gnu.org/ > Help > Wiki I believe it proves your point. I was misled by its information. I'm not ad= vocating for a wiki so much as a clear and easy path to contributing. A wi= ki happens to be a common choice for that. I updated it to try to remove the confusing content. If it's not official and not wanted, I request removing it from the main pa= ge.