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Luis Felipe kindly pointed out what I had overlooked. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2022-01/msg00194.html > I see a lot of emotional language here, but the fact is: you can > contribute to our documentation by sending your text. It=E2=80=99s that > simple.=20 I'm sorry if you felt accused. I can see how it might come across that way.= It would have been better for me to just ask if I was missing something (= which I was). > Send an email to guix-devel or guix-patches with a suitable subject so > that it doesn=E2=80=99t get lost in a discussion and take it from there. >=20 > > I feel like it also > > says that community isn't important to us. >=20 > I do not share your interpretation of the situation. I'm glad because that means we're in agreement now that I see my mistake. := )