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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel , calcium Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1641928492; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=s6l21h9am9wI1BxXA4m463iAq3qpG4glf7pmb9qtHmQ=; b=LHacRQoXS5UdWGk3iCUamnePlTdJN4S9OU1dkXhIOAGyZ++Us/UEeHzA9AiiSYLMLYNomc cblXQde4gRrSWbNoqF5e3Ic0rCSEXwIjAA32BchMKaAMs+NpRaaDlw2+7MrVk/ub9DnEvL g1ONbOTlcBOE3X9v+6udIzNP6U14QbFWfllBfIECcaXKQdB1oMMyauB7Cq8bjLKwm9Kmdw HAWemG/dbs7J6bdnEvZ7zLAL3thpo58fqGZnL6TapBsxhyIJ/tiZx6XDp1ibwlggYlxvvI QbQAEyeM8DRF0utM/1MDbqeCOMBaGoOGkOQY7C9MCbFx9A0AI7QqPrY1cc2kyA== ARC-Seal: i=2; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1641928492; a=rsa-sha256; cv=fail; b=JeEKjrH3uQfqOKhtVPYRfVNXFhwV7S02imfIHOLC84zxBBFjhE+U4/CsGoRHorBYDOmvvA YVZC+L3P+pFiA31IeGvHjq+Fo/angLEEBeLZRKH6STfdcofgTJ3/cRlkOUZXU88exrRfkj jclFDuXNOpGOqvTjQphxrHPTatTn5ISofCx77Ez9Ght+vOmTDeZCeLPwUUbPbVc+9HI8cH XoKiBf9wjrFhylFPgNrZLuC++Obm2+8HicmKZcN0M4iURpzZxB4OCRWn3rnaQqUuuRu5KF Lu4PFjsXptr3r94wHOn80Jb6IhyL8WF2uJQFxY6FxTKx7GHhVtQp72ITUW5m+g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=2; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=excalamus.com header.s=zmail header.b=fZZijdH0; arc=reject ("signature check failed: fail, {[1] = sig:zohomail.com:reject}"); dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.11 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=excalamus.com header.s=zmail header.b=fZZijdH0; arc=reject ("signature check failed: fail, {[1] = sig:zohomail.com:reject}"); dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B7953389D3 X-Spam-Score: -1.11 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: BJgMePxaON21 > I don't know how many people in the community have > non-CS/Unix/programming backgrounds so I share some personal thoughts > below. It's not that I want to share my life, but it might resonate > with the experiences of others. Thank you for sharing your story. It resonates with me as mine is similar. I have degrees in math and statistics, and am a self-taught programmer. I've worked a lot with scientists and engineers and have experienced the divide you describe. It can be a hard gap to bridge. It a sounds like one of the things that makes you feel disconnected from Guix is your current skill level with Guile, Geiser, and general Unix knowledge. I can sympathize. I've had the same kinds of challenges as were described by people earlier in the thread.