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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 X-Spam-Score: -0.70 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=zoho.com header.s=zm2020 header.b=numVK4AW; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=zoho.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 2001:470:142::17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Scan-Result: default: False [-0.70 / 13.00]; GENERIC_REPUTATION(0.00)[-0.49664125354262]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; DWL_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:server fail,zoho.com:server fail]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:470:142::/48:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[zoho.com]; IP_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[asn: 22989(0.11), country: US(-0.00), ip: 2001:470:142::17(-0.50)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: eggs.gnu.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[zoho.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[zoho.com,reject]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:server fail]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22989, ipnet:2001:470:142::/48, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[larch=yhetil.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[sirgazil@zoho.com,guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org]; URL_IN_SUBJECT(1.00)[guix.gnu.org]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[i=1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[zoho.com:s=zm2020]; URIBL_BLOCKED(0.00)[guix.info:url,zoho.com:dkim,gnu.org:email]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[179.15.13.185:received]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[] X-TUID: y1GqofHPgZ/X ---- On Wed, 06 May 2020 14:46:02 +0000 zimoun = wrote ---- > On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 16:23, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >=20 > > > Does it make sense to replace the interface of [1] by the interface = by [2]? > > > > A goal for [1] was to have a JS-free interface. It=E2=80=99s necessar= ily > > limiting (no search interface), but I think it=E2=80=99s good to have. >=20 > I understand. Even if I am almost sure no one use it in practise. )-: [...] > > It would also be nice to preserve the design and layout that sirgazil > > came up with. >=20 > Or use the nice layout with the other interface (search etc.) :-) > But I understand that the JS is the current issue. Personally, I think there is no JavaScript issue, Simon. The problem seems = to be that no one is volunteering to enhance the package-related pages to a= dd the missing features. The only rule I know about JS is that the website = should be usable without it (for users who disable JS and for browsers that= don't interpret any JS). That doesn't mean that using JS in the website is= forbidden. The package pages design you are seeing right now is part of a proposal I d= id some years ago (see http://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/25227). At that tim= e there was a limitation to keep everything static (no databases, no server= -side scripting) because Guix website was a static website hosted by Savann= ah (like the websites of other GNU projects). For this reason, parts of the= proposal, like searching, were left unimplemented. I think I proposed to t= ry using some JS-based searching at the time, but I never prototyped anythi= ng. Guix has its own hosting resources now. If someone volunteers, I think it w= ould be possible to get the functionality from "http://hpc.guix.info/browse= " in the Guix website.