From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Svante Signell Subject: Re: An April 1 joke? Re: [PATCH] gnu: Add systemd. Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 17:33:52 +0200 Message-ID: <1522856032.3197.77.camel@gmail.com> Reply-To: svante.signell@gmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42428) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f3kPt-0008Nr-Se for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Apr 2018 11:33:45 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f3kPq-0005tC-DN for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Apr 2018 11:33:41 -0400 Received: from mail-wr0-x234.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c0c::234]:37387) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f3kPq-0005sG-7D for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Apr 2018 11:33:38 -0400 Received: by mail-wr0-x234.google.com with SMTP id l49so23405032wrl.4 for ; Wed, 04 Apr 2018 08:33:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: 7c639ea9-12da-6028-d31f-79361c7c67a7@uni-bremen.de List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: castilma@uni-bremen.de Cc: "guix-devel@gnu.org" Sorry, I'm not subscribed to this list. Hopefully this reply comes in correct thread order. > Hi, > > > And the same happens again: He does not condemn systemd, calling it Free > > Software due to the GPL license. In my opinion systemd is violating one of  > > the 4 > > freeedoms of GPL: Freedom 1 (as well as the *NIX and KISS philosophy) > >       * The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it > >         does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the > >         source code is a precondition for this. > > > Freedom 1 gives you the right to change the software for yourself, but > not the right to force others to change their version. What made you think of that? I've not said anything about "forcing others to change their version" > > It's really time for a re-definition of Free Software, not only basing such > > definitions solely on the license at hand. It is also a matter of freedoms > of the users of software. Especially in view of that most Free Software > nowadays is developed by commercial players, having their own agenda, actively > alienating their users (and non-paid, spare time developers). > >  > > Do you mean software, where the users can dictate the author what should > be changed/made in its software? Again, I don't understand you. Never heard about software where the users have any say in what's being developed except when they pay for it. And as you know money rules. But one fact is that corporations hiring people to develop software are doing that for a purpose (and they all have their own agenda).