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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1655500494; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=PKn/fsPss4oyBWpVIRFbZOlDNcnbCtCKd+E9lB6rHz4=; b=MYqHkWSn1ylipcfMWS5+Pg1cD7zgWqQIPFQ0Ydhp+J1jPb4xOuT3+Mw2WdNlvhlS8C+n1f R3IgDS+3MU+PTsNj0RbYxl69BUEAw9ENDzOiZHT5l50FVgYaQ8rEUnHfxrxIFMawrJAnMx i8rnUHsiw4Wt5PAssIeidN7SP+/iicEWeAQrhqPg/aIfzqZYOwX+AwLYocYz6l9ZFXBlxt iWsHi0TYUpoQwDyGIRYrxbGANCjeuSO9ezt/gywxVJWDYYXNVrmz0Rk7La0nAT1vVuAjly wbjl7sYFXt3GpB+/F7GmKiYxOJx1Y/ORgp5zdtHTTS/yPP8hS36onbROuKXkbg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1655500494; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=rlz/PFIW+qKLj/YXvk636ofCdmsZZBkY/9BzVa+9rAvLb95Wd85HKBcK7wDr2MjhzQ1s9r rKRNiymwjVGTMcTEpiKRHeTpp7AESsEGwgNdHc82W9oIxJs/ZHb9Jj0L21K5q5i8Jf3h05 K3npIfSfl9nJ6xgG4zHsHzSTEfmsg6pKeMQtJL4VBzPpYgiYkTrzFi3xPXnO9HzUCWZT4t E8bho0J6bySmMnEE85vT9VJuttpJSGHHZWVBI/QORGt4YZBKBapGN2+xqjvugSwdn2/BRq nFvordhpRO/SpLUQLovjceNm6RKXoTX2j47mrG7XEYEOku2abWHtPEiWuxxNpw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=telenet.be header.s=r22 header.b=e0JJMsTY; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=telenet.be; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.19 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=telenet.be header.s=r22 header.b=e0JJMsTY; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=telenet.be; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C88851386B X-Spam-Score: -6.19 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: tG4PCCub8NBH --=-YH6mORKHdvbaAqUtJwf0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Felix Lechner schreef op vr 17-06-2022 om 13:11 [-0700]: > > If you are already in California, [...], but if you don't and > > simply > > Apple needs to appeal to international > > law enforcement or your country in particular, whichever is easier. >=20 > I generally think of license violations as civil matters. With some > small exceptions, law enforcement focuses on criminal cases. I thought that copyright violations were a criminal matter in the US, but after some cursory searching, it appears to be more complicated.=20 Apparently there's both a civil part and a criminal part, where apparently the criminal part is for some cases of willful copyright infringement. > As a resident of Northern California, I personally like the local > legal environment. You would have to talk to a lawyer to see if the > Ninth Circuit (copyright claims are Federal) would honor the clause > about ignoring the UN Convention after considering the relative > strength of the parties, as a matter of sound public policy. I don't know California but sounds nice. Also I guess I'd need to do the same to see if $local_country would do such a thing too. > Perhaps the weighing of those factors played a role in why Apple's > attempt to stipulate a venue did not render the license unfree. Maybe, yes, I dunno. 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