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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1651617931; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=n2Iu8xxc/ikzMNanDDB2DMmO9ynS5QtAm8NZjJJIU5k=; b=i7xKptUxiIO791cXNHffuYTAEF5+GUiC8zqQWHoWoHSER9imZlm5BY6A+s9CQ05Lh8e3Ja Ox6QwuP2njvYtStjpI9K9HdkWcB6z5D+fxERuCbaLWLTp2//7SzSo8D1QM+gmlfbFuAseU cJf7uSCEQ+9hDbCujpFBTuMhbizBEopLDu0C8ll9uWw4/leE6VwkF8nRA6CoK5X0q7LBir k0+sHKbXcJP4d6bGPKA7BpvSaaseZeenJfwNIJMQe6CPd/ORoI4pHqMYnKE8GiR1jeImhA 0G1lnMvHXH9XIOU+2NhMgo/4LABL4mRM0d+xZdgTiMy+bFgjUwSSS7DRnNS8uQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1651617931; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=FlBdHZpWOU0pE/s16iH20COdRYloTamYfM5IS0dCbK72dPYK96D0FxdqEeUSpRBcKjH7Jw bldEb8DMuG0evbjzQkdoEv6lRLLaDOneMo4DoLGqLHDWla3H3jsmDpp5LxnRdTtyTYod8x CMOXyNF7K3E5+CMvFIIJqx9g8Bni0nahExol3wAjfzE1x8jluY3u4tSfwnkMJyNufuvcDd rzKdVSy2sSzYgm5MI2EORACmJOcI0BZcBxdpzrnFzHg0blfqAPo7qUrmlrGvyckbMU9ZLm Bhybs2QszyW4kR06FpoX6HNDbHxSw6Omdl7kSExJGm2fNte8+DBVd3zpkWNsTQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=telenet.be header.s=r22 header.b=B4pIZKst; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=telenet.be; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.18 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=telenet.be header.s=r22 header.b=B4pIZKst; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=telenet.be; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A2CE43639D X-Spam-Score: -6.18 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: UBN0qmaRgWX1 --=-SfJs9nxaUGe2Dkbvr+ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Liliana Marie Prikler schreef op di 03-05-2022 om 22:04 [+0200]: > > Also, why would the user need to split things, couldn't Guix do > > that > > automatically? > Oh, sure, I'll just train a machine learning model to partition > packages into profiles.=C2=A0 This will obviously be better than a human > figuring things out, because machines can't fail ever. >=20 > In case the above wasn't clear enough, I'd rather leave this decision > to the user along with the decision of whether or not to waste > electricity in training an artificial intelligence.=C2=A0 Offering a > declarative interface to profile splitting benefits everyone here. I did not suggest any machine learning or AI? Also, how can a machine fail here? The computed partitioning might not=C2=A0be optimal, but as lon= g as we're careful with search paths and its not overly suboptimal, any partititioning would do (in the sense that it doesn't =E2=80=98lose=E2=80= =99 packages or invent packages oout of thin air or something). Greetings, Maxime. --=-SfJs9nxaUGe2Dkbvr+ed Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iI0EABYKADUWIQTB8z7iDFKP233XAR9J4+4iGRcl7gUCYnGUORccbWF4aW1lZGV2 b3NAdGVsZW5ldC5iZQAKCRBJ4+4iGRcl7tmyAP9kZQXmwPWL2A1P32FG7GMKKLig LJ8aSCHBikPwqnDv9gD/Xa7FRCEL8nFhHQ4sjECwPRuIolyfyxu/prP0HVsH4gE= =spHz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-SfJs9nxaUGe2Dkbvr+ed--