From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id UE89ABVvrF9WJgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 23:09:09 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id UGWQNxRvrF+cOAAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 23:09:08 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 824E6940355 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 23:09:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:48686 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kczEh-0007oC-8X for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 18:09:07 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48944) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kcyI9-0000wm-FQ for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 17:08:38 -0500 Received: from 101c.relay.hey.com ([204.62.115.197]:54115) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kcyI7-00010I-61 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 17:08:37 -0500 Received: from hey.com (bigip-vip-new.rw-ash-int.37signals.com [10.20.0.24]) by 101.relay.hey.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1111A9FDF1; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 22:08:31 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hey.com; s=heymail; t=1605132512; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to; bh=XmRw32ae9YUX+MYcO5mJ4eLdeg7dDgIJMI2kaw9mvPc=; b=d96XRzXZPBo08bV0WcpiBBl4aB+oDm10TnQ+xZEOmDAWgcaM0QBzRDFavszA8SCqVhxzgD 7OzST9L1R45v1rN+rNIIZmkPsjjDR5rIrf0OSGvEMnkny347MZtzXsxSsgrGJS7P5jFjMt DB08Y5lnva85ndXL5b5Y0jV3kI0RBoIlOZCxww2bKvZHfGPzX8yrl+EYjNvepWZv5bJxTU 2y2d+26x13ljog1yAAjifvyOZUdhPYfme60jxk9birYxH3Zb9IigHj/SqYHYCF8kGz0UTT g2z3QWGvBq2u4cxus1XBOkbXhc1Wu+HC1DFrO9Cm3IBtNSTKlgz6zaSgCgnahQ== Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 22:08:31 +0000 From: Ryan Prior To: Pierre Neidhardt , Jan Wielkiewicz Cc: Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution Message-ID: <0dfacdc4d261507fc25735e5e4bde388dff2982c@hey.com> In-Reply-To: <20201111225647.4806c661@interia.pl> Subject: Re: Latest Nyxt features a GUI for Guix :) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5fac60df9bd36_2e2dc83515d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=204.62.115.197; envelope-from=ryanprior@hey.com; helo=101c.relay.hey.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/11 17:08:32 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=hey.com header.s=heymail header.b=d96XRzXZ; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=hey.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.21 X-TUID: j+tc7VVB0b8y ----==_mimepart_5fac60df9bd36_2e2dc83515d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On November 11, 2020, Jan Wielkiewicz wrote: > [web browsers are] a really poorly designed copy of > operating systems and its utilities. > > [...] > > I just don't understand why in the web browser. > I'll try it. The web browser is the primary operating environment for a lot of people. Just as Emacs users built web browsers, terminal emulators, and mail clients on the Emacs platform, the web platform also has all those things (including various elaborate in-browser code editors.) So I understand this as having the exact same genesis as the Guix interface in Emacs: people would like to manage their operating system using the interface they spend most of their time in, and for Nyxt power users that would be their browser. I'm not at all interested in managing my Guix packages using Nyxt, which is highly correlated to my not being a Nyxt power user. ----==_mimepart_5fac60df9bd36_2e2dc83515d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On November 11, 2020, Jan Wielkiewicz <tona_kosmicznego_smiecia= @interia.pl> wrote:
[web browsers are] a really poorl= y designed copy of
operating systems and its utilities.

[...]
I just don't understand why in the web browser.
I'll try it.

The web browser is the primary operating environment fo= r a lot of people. Just as Emacs users built web browsers, terminal emula= tors, and mail clients on the Emacs platform, the web platform also has a= ll those things (including various elaborate in-browser code editors.) So= I understand this as having the exact same genesis as the Guix interface= in Emacs: people would like to manage their operating system using the i= nterface they spend most of their time in, and for Nyxt power users that = would be their browser. I'm not at all interested in managing my Guix pac= kages using Nyxt, which is highly correlated to my not being a Nyxt power= user.
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