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From: Taylan Kammer <taylan.kammer@gmail.com>
To: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr>
Cc: Guix Devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Using #true and #false everywhere?
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 17:48:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <045d6005-fdc4-f9f5-6c04-a07c5b394fcc@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ3okZ23sZ6DpS9K96Ygt+MXNBDmOvTPT3wsFwYSWCZs7UVqkQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 20.10.2020 16:26, zimoun wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 15:32, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> wrote:
>> zimoun 写道:
>>> Maybe it is on my part but it returns #t and not #true.  So
>>> somehow
>>> you need to know that #t is also #true or fix the REPL to return
>>> #true
>>> and not #t.
>>
>> Right.  Making e.g. define-record-type ‘return #true’ would not
>> change what's actually returned under the hood.
> 
> It is what I have tried to express [1]:  I am not convinced that
> replacing in the Guix source by #true or #false instead of #t or #f
> really simplifies and helps the newcomer.  Because all the internals
> use #t or #f.  For example, there are often #t or #f in Backtrace
> messages (random example [2]).  REPL is another example.  Somehow, you
> have to know what #t and #f means, even if you are a newcomer.
> 
> The only remaining argument IMHO in favor of the change is cosmetic
> (not newcomer friendly): it is more pleasant to read #false here and
> there in the source code.  Well, I do not have a strong opinion,  I am
> still doubtful.

Shouldn't it suffice to just change 'write'?  I think that should change 
99.9% of all places where Guile outputs "#f" or "#t" for false/true.

- Taylan


  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-20 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-16 10:38 Using #true and #false everywhere? Ludovic Courtès
2020-10-16 13:19 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2020-10-16 13:36   ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2020-10-18  1:36     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2020-10-18  2:22       ` Bengt Richter
2020-10-19 20:45       ` zimoun
2020-10-21  9:56         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-10-20  9:57     ` Andreas Enge
2020-10-21  9:59       ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-10-21 11:21         ` Andreas Enge
2020-10-21 15:52           ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-10-21 11:51         ` Roel Janssen
2020-10-16 16:24 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2020-10-16 23:45 ` Danny Milosavljevic
2020-10-20 10:32 ` Andreas Enge
2020-10-20 11:10   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-10-20 12:02     ` zimoun
2020-10-20 12:59       ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2020-10-20 13:11         ` zimoun
2020-10-20 13:32           ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2020-10-20 14:26             ` zimoun
2020-10-20 15:48               ` Taylan Kammer [this message]
2020-10-21  1:25     ` Mark H Weaver
2020-10-21  6:18       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-10-21 10:04         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-10-20 12:45   ` zimoun
2020-10-20 12:55     ` Andreas Enge
2020-10-21 10:20   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-10-24 18:29 ` Robin Templeton
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-10-16 22:06 Miguel Ángel Arruga Vivas
2020-10-17  0:25 ` jbranso

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