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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx11.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.39 X-Spam-Score: -5.39 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7CD8742785 X-TUID: p4OSznHn/lcl Hi Guix, Am Donnerstag, dem 05.12.2024 um 09:06 +0200 schrieb Efraim Flashner: > On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 08:24:29PM +0100, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > > Perhaps this would be a good time to revive the antioxidant-build- > > system > [=E2=80=A6] > I still have a copy of the code on my machine but unfortunately it no > longer builds due to the constant churn of rust packages. >=20 > [=E2=80=A6] >=20 > Another idea which I'm not in love with is what Debian does. [=E2=80=A6] I would like to throw a third option into the Mix: Meson. It not only supports Rust[1], but also has a wrapper for the cargo build system[2], which while experimental should help us translating all the cargo bits to Meson ones. At least the former is actively being used in Mesa[3], so it works as a proof of concept =E2=80=93 for the latter, it appears that Mesa uses hand-written meson build files. Cheers [1] https://mesonbuild.com/Rust.html [2] https://mesonbuild.com/Wrap-dependency-system-manual.html#cargo-wraps [3] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/blob/24.3/src/compiler/rust/= meson.build