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dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=rixotstudio.cz header.s=protonmail2 header.b=p2nOeou5; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=rixotstudio.cz (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 59E682A60A X-Spam-Score: -2.63 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: INJ3K/c0gjyr This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --------c975538d83bb9716cd11f8876c5b501c491630d79ac76b88eccbf1618fd97030 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---------------------182ccc4e26d9b6fec91c8611cccac1d5" -----------------------182ccc4e26d9b6fec91c8611cccac1d5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="---------------------ab8803fce976b273ebe0b534983da7e8" -----------------------ab8803fce976b273ebe0b534983da7e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I'm curious; have you tried any Matrix client that do not require a brows= er or need a large amount of system resources to operate? --Maxim I was doing quick testing of other clients +- 7 months ago and decided to u= se element. I didn't do any additional testing after that. Is there any rea= son why should I check them? I am not aware of any matrix's client that requires a large amount of proce= ssing resources to operate (excluding miitrix for Nintendo DS allegedly whi= ch is allegedly due to the used Infrastructure on the device).. would be a = major problem for me if it did as my devices are optimized for battery life= and tent to overheat on such use. I assume that you want to make the argument that it requires more processin= g resources than IRC? That is true by design as Matrix is doing E2EE which I found to be more res= ource efficient and usable in comparison to Hexchat with fishlim. Sent from ProtonMail mobile \-------- Original Message -------- On Nov 12, 2021, 06:40, Maxim Cournoyer < maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > \-CC support@matrix.org (since my reply here doesn't need to involve them= ) > > Hi, > > Jacob Hrbek writes: > > >> What is the difference between a Matrix space and a Matrix channel? --= Maxim > > > > In the analogy of files and directories: Matrix space is a directory fo= r channels. (see attachment matrix-space.png) > > > > In the image you can see matrix space called GNU Guix (unofficiality > > disclosed in the description) containing channel \#guix \#guile > > \#guix-offtopic \#guix-wiki which are bridged to [libera.chat][] with G= uix > > System.. channel on Matrix > > > >> From my memory the reality is that most of the clients are not quite t= here yet... -- Maxim > > > > That is not my experience I suggest you to try them again and be specif= ic about the issues so that they can be investigated. > > I'm curious; have you tried any Matrix client that do not require a > browser or need a large amount of system resources to operate? > > >> To really be in full control, ideally we'd have a Shepherd service to = administer it. Is this something you'd be motivated to work on? -- Maxim > > > > I need matrix homeserver on Guix myself so it would align with my work > > when I figure out how to maintain a cluster of computers using public > > repository which CI/CD calls guix commands for push-based deployment > > which should be any day now. > > Nice! > > >> Moderation is something that I'm a bit worried about; at least > >> speaking for myself I'd want to continue doing it from IRC and it'd > >> need to sync to Matrix transparently, not the other way around. Is > >> this possible? -- Maxim > > > > I am not qualified to answer that as I don't do cross-protocol moderati= on, CC Matrix support > > OK, let's see. > > Thanks, > > Maxim > [libera.chat]: http://libera.chat -----------------------ab8803fce976b273ebe0b534983da7e8 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="---------------------b1f0e922d1c880e686c05419d0c2a59a" -----------------------b1f0e922d1c880e686c05419d0c2a59a Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Jmd0OyBJJ20gY3VyaW91czsgaGF2ZSB5b3UgdHJpZWQgYW55IE1hdHJpeCBjbGllbnQgdGhhdCBk byBub3QgcmVxdWlyZSBhIGJyb3dzZXIgb3IgbmVlZCBhIGxhcmdlIGFtb3VudCBvZiBzeXN0ZW0g cmVzb3VyY2VzIHRvIG9wZXJhdGU/IC0tTWF4aW08YnI+PGJyPkkgd2FzIGRvaW5nIHF1aWNrIHRl c3Rpbmcgb2Ygb3RoZXIgY2xpZW50cyArLSA3IG1vbnRocyBhZ28gYW5kIGRlY2lkZWQgdG8gdXNl IGVsZW1lbnQuIEkgZGlkbid0IGRvIGFueSBhZGRpdGlvbmFsIHRlc3RpbmcgYWZ0ZXIgdGhhdC4g SXMgdGhlcmUgYW55IHJlYXNvbiB3aHkgc2hvdWxkIEkgY2hlY2sgdGhlbT88YnI+PGJyPkkgYW0g 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