> What is the difference between a Matrix space and a Matrix channel? -- Maxim In the analogy of files and directories: Matrix space is a directory for channels. (see attachment matrix-space.png) In the image you can see matrix space called GNU Guix (unofficiality disclosed in the description) containing channel #guix #guile #guix-offtopic #guix-wiki which are bridged to libera.chat with Guix System.. channel on Matrix > From my memory the reality is that most of the clients are not quite there yet... -- Maxim That is not my experience I suggest you to try them again and be specific about the issues so that they can be investigated. > To really be in full control, ideally we'd have a Shepherd service to administer it. Is this something you'd be motivated to work on? -- Maxim I need matrix homeserver on Guix myself so it would align with my work when I figure out how to maintain a cluster of computers using public repository which CI/CD calls guix commands for push-based deployment which should be any day now. > Moderation is something that I'm a bit worried about; at least speaking for myself I'd want to continue doing it from IRC and it'd need to sync to Matrix transparently, not the other way around. Is this possible? -- Maxim I am not qualified to answer that as I don't do cross-protocol moderation, CC Matrix support -- Jacob "Kreyren" Hrbek Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Friday, November 12th, 2021 at 3:25 AM, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > Hi Jacob, > > I think Mark had valid concerns about control. > > Jacob Hrbek kreyren@rixotstudio.cz writes: > > > My motivation for this proposal is to make GNU Guix more accessible > > > > and user-friendly so that I can get my team to use it painlessly to > > > > organize the work as I currently use NiXOS where nixlang is giving me > > > > anxiety and it's too limited to my liking. > > > > I prefer zero trust model so I am happy with transferring the matrix space to the chosen GNU representative. > > > > About the channel I sent a message to the owner and waiting for a reply. > > What is the difference between a Matrix space and a Matrix channel? > > > About matrix I am proposing to run our own homeserver that GNU Guix have full control over. > > > > I helped Ian Kelling with the implementation for FSF when they were moving off of Freenode so i assume that we can just fork the implementation or adapt it in GNU guile? > > > > Note: FSF decided to not move on matrix as one of it's clients is > > > > using Google's reCAPTCHA for registration > > > > (https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/issues/3220) and is > > > > allegedly using electron.. FWIW i never understood the reasoning as > > > > the homeserver does not depend on the client and there are multiple > > > > alternatives (https://matrix.org/clients). > > From my memory the reality is that most of the clients are not quite > > there yet, so to get a good experience one must use the official web > > client (Element) or the Android one, both of which pose freedom > > challenges (is the JavaScript tagged to run in GNU LibreJS?). The > > desktop client is also web based, probably unpackagHopefully > > that changed in the last couple years. I remember trying the (abandoned > > then) Emacs-based client and also the Weechat client. I ended up not > > submitting the package to Guix, since it was too buggy (using 100% of > > CPU, very slow to refresh, and had other annoyances I forgot). > > > About bridges they are self-hosted (https://matrix.org/bridges) so GNU > > > > Guix would be in full control over them, but some > > > > e.g. https://t2bot.io provide it for free to the general public > > > > without a guaranteed uptime. > > To really be in full control, ideally we'd have a Shepherd service to > > administer it. Is this something you'd be motivated to work on? > > > I believe it also answers the question about moderating? There are > > > > also moderation bots (https://matrix.org/bots/) such as mjolnil > > > > https://github.com/matrix-org/mjolnir that afaik can be configured > > > > that if user is banned on matrix that it will issue the ban across all > > > > bridges and if needed the space. > > Moderation is something that I'm a bit worried about; at least speaking > > for myself I'd want to continue doing it from IRC and it'd need to sync > > to Matrix transparently, not the other way around. Is this possible? > > Thanks, > > Maxim