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Tue, 25 May 2021 09:37:52 -0700 (PDT) References: <4BF8EE8A-C2B4-429A-A0DF-928155A5802E@lepiller.eu> <87r1hvq0ev.fsf@gnu.org> <3a56f495-6316-4808-5abb-51bd1186e289@riseup.net> <8A7D5A59-1B7A-421E-97CF-B5F72C8B4A4B@lepiller.eu> From: bo0od Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 16:37:47 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8A7D5A59-1B7A-421E-97CF-B5F72C8B4A4B@lepiller.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-guix@gnu.org List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: 47823@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "bug-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1621963234; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:resent-cc: resent-from:resent-sender:resent-message-id:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; 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dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=qvAQAHWS; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=riseup.net (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9C0C717A9D X-Spam-Score: 0.17 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: ttvT5fx3Dr12 If the server configured DNSSEC in a bad way then for surely it wont work and thats what happened with gnu.org if you read this ticket: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/9867 This ticket show clearly that the operators of gnu.org didnt fix their bad DNSSEC configuration despite being pointed out to them. https://danwin1210.me e.g This domain use DNSSEC where is the problem connecting to it? Julien Lepiller: > No, resolved is on the client side. This means that they managed to set up dnssec, but some clients who use systemd (most Linux users) can't connect to gnu.org domains anymore. I don't think this is acceptable :) > > Le 25 mai 2021 08:51:29 GMT-04:00, bo0od a écrit : >> Then dont use systemd to do that. There many other methods/tools to >> achieve having it. >> >> Marius Bakke: >>> Julien Lepiller skriver: >>> >>>> Le 16 avril 2021 12:15:25 GMT-04:00, Leo Famulari >> a écrit : >>>>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 11:00:05AM +0000, bo0od wrote: >>>>>> Scanning Guix website gave many missing security features which >>>>> modern >>>>>> security needs them to be available: >>>>>> >>>>>> * TLS and DNS: >>>>>> >>>>>> looking at: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.hardenize.com/report/guix.gnu.org/1618568751 >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=guix.gnu.org >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>>> - DNS: DNSSEC support missing (important) >>>>> >>>>> Hm, is it important? My impression is that it's an idea whose time >> has >>>>> passed without significant adoption. >>>>> >>>>> But maybe we could enable it if the costs are not too great. >>>> >>>> gnu.org does not have dnssec, so we'd need them to work on that >> first. >>> >>> gnu.org used to have DNSSEC, but disabled it because it gave NXDOMAIN >>> on machines with systemd-resolved: >>> >>> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/9867 >>> >