From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id ePQ/AyjwI2DdcwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 14:39:36 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id 2BC5OifwI2AKCgAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 14:39:35 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FB1E940222 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 14:39:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:56812 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9qeR-0006G0-Rw for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 09:39:33 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42316) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9qdz-0006EX-0S for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 09:39:03 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44281) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9qdx-0004l4-LM for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 09:39:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l9qdx-0003lP-I3 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 09:39:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#46385: User awareness of Anti-Features Resent-From: Maxime Devos Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 14:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46385 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: soheil@disroot.org, 46385@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 46385-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46385.161296793714458 (code B ref 46385); Wed, 10 Feb 2021 14:39:01 +0000 Received: (at 46385) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2021 14:38:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55827 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l9qds-0003l6-8C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 09:38:57 -0500 Received: from albert.telenet-ops.be ([195.130.137.90]:47112) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l9qdn-0003kv-T1 for 46385@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 09:38:55 -0500 Received: from ptr-bvsjgyjmffd7q9timvx.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be ([IPv6:2a02:1811:8c09:9d00:aaf1:9810:a0b8:a55d]) by albert.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id TSep2400t0mfAB406SepgU; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 15:38:50 +0100 Message-ID: From: Maxime Devos Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 15:38:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-PCbqVDxxWoYrOsG/RiQO" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telenet.be; s=r21; t=1612967930; bh=l3dWr+qAwo5jVdyu3+8jkhHl6rKy2RSrj8J/n2FMs48=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=JqVyPPKldXuwck5xkI/3Api39t5yzyA/+0fTn4+fxcGutK2xcu4Mj9RL9IyCeIn0k CUyCPsGoI8K95LWgV502vfIoaq8Bu125NlojcVDzH5ASa2SZF+YnkS1MEKq61kse/w Vh3CQlS++Bgz+60MBdYih5nNv7mThECcn3Mu38+lWImE3G9d7p5drfaxmuZE7rc9yK zKU3yp5t2RQfSq1KpDFMBInACyiN0IO5Q5BjwET9JyYR3MewJZJgc5BoDr3q0vXU2/ gInFO8tvs8qE7Y8/L/+YVkGHDe5QnhfvmOF31JL57kM9zntAdiDcCKmbAEr/WH1WnE 2LvCGWzkxE/Pw== X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-guix@gnu.org List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "bug-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.36 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=telenet.be header.s=r21 header.b=JqVyPPKl; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=telenet.be (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8FB1E940222 X-Spam-Score: -3.36 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 3AINAiWoMzRH --=-PCbqVDxxWoYrOsG/RiQO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, 2021-02-08 at 13:28 +0000, soheil--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix w= rote: > Users should be aware of anti-feature of packages. > It is best to have anti-feature tag in anti-feature packages so that user= know > which program has anti-features; Like F-Droid. Also, user should be awar= e of > anti-feature during installation. And wherever this awareness is needed..= . >=20 > An example is Telegram, Telegram is a program that user connects to a > proprietary server, and users who know less about computer softwares, > are not aware of the anti-feature. I'll have to think some more on whether this is something Guix needs, but I do have a partial concrete implementation proposal: Packages can have a =E2=80=98properties=E2=80=99 field, e.g. from gnu/packa= ges/bioconductors.scm: (define-public r-reactome-db (package (name "r-reactome-db") (version "1.70.0") [...] (properties `((upstream-name . "reactome.db"))))) Maybe add a =E2=80=98anti-features=E2=80=99 entry field for some packages? E.g., (define-public some-twitter-app (package (name "tweet") [...] (properties `((anti-features x y z))))) x, y and z can be symbols, e.g. based upon from https://f-droid.org/en/docs= /Anti-Features/ * ads (I don't think any application in Guix has these?) * tracking (should be patched out if possible) * non-free-network-services * non-free-dependencies (probably not allowed in upstream Guix, but maybe i= n a channel) The code behind =E2=80=98guix show=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98guix search=E2=80= =99 would need to be adjusted to display anti-features, and the =E2=80=98guix install=E2=80= =99 code should warn if someone installs a package with anti-features. 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