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spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.44 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=telenet.be header.s=r21 header.b=I9jjEtGb; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=telenet.be (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 57BC718DD4 X-Spam-Score: -3.44 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: gWlcQ7NFFrLP --=-I84WCGqI4xKMZApGImiz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2021-04-14 at 12:50 +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > [...] > > > We could also add a =E2=80=98--no-check-certificates=E2=80=99 option = to =E2=80=98guix pull=E2=80=99. > >=20 > > I think we should avoid adding "use insecure connection" options. Even > > if the code itself is signed. >=20 > =E2=80=9CInsecure=E2=80=9D is a strong word: it still prevents eavesdropp= ing, which is > the only property that matters in the presence of authenticated > channels. Maybe call the option '--tolerate-eavesdropping' then? That name: * is technically correct * doesn't suggest the option is "Insecure" * but still sounds like something you don't want * should be clear to people not knowing about TLS' PKI infrastructure, =E2=80=98will eventually=E2=80=99=E2=84=A2 be replaced with GNS + or something like that, which wouldn't use such a centralised structure. Thoughts? 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