From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Scott C. MacCallum" via Bug reports for GNU Guix Subject: bug#39468: Openbox - Calculator does not load Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2020 14:48:47 +0000 Message-ID: References: <30CD3467-B630-4CD1-A233-6EED65995E26@lepiller.eu> Reply-To: "Scott C. MacCallum" , "Scott C. MacCallum" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55681) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j04wJ-0006p1-SY for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2020 09:49:05 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j04wI-0003ae-AU for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2020 09:49:03 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:43064) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j04wH-0003a3-Sr for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2020 09:49:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j04wH-0005h0-SF for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2020 09:49:01 -0500 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sender: "bug-Guix" To: =?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=A1bor?= Boskovits Cc: "39468@debbugs.gnu.org" <39468@debbugs.gnu.org> "I believe we could do something along these lines: 1. Provide an openbox-minimal and an openbox entry. 2. openbox minimal would do what openbox does right now 3. define a %openbox-recommended-packages list that makes most of it work 4. the openbox entry would append the %openbox-recommended-packages to the package list." I like this. It sounds similar to what OpenBSD does after an X install, in = that you're given a windows manager that only has a functioning xterm and w= orking system functionality from the menu: shutdown, restart, etc. Scott scmguru - irc.freenode.net Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Original Me= ssage =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 On Friday, February 7, 2020 9:29 AM, G=C3=A1bor Boskovits wrote: > Hello, > > Scott C. MacCallum via Bug reports for GNU Guix bug-guix@gnu.org ezt > =C3=ADrta (id=C5=91pont: 2020. febr. 6., Cs, 22:38): > > > "I'd like to close your other bugs (39469 to 39474) as I think they all= have the same root cause. I'll rename this one Do you agree?" > > I agree. And I'll stop submitting bugs for the other broken menu items.= :) > > Scott > > scmguru - irc.freenode.net > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Origina= l Message =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80= =90 > > On Thursday, February 6, 2020 4:23 PM, Julien Lepiller julien@lepiller.= eu wrote: > > > > > Le 6 f=C3=A9vrier 2020 16:12:38 GMT-05:00, "Scott C. MacCallum" smacc= allum@protonmail.com a =C3=A9crit : > > > Please make sure to keep debbugs in CC :) > > > > > > > > To be fair, if you installed only the openbox environment, none o= f > > > > > the items in the menu would work > > > > > > > > I didn't install just an Openbox environment, I installed all of th= e > > > > available desktop environments. > > > > > > I understand, and the other environments brought other packages with = them, which made some of the menu items work. > > > > > > > > However, this is not a guix-specific bug, and as an openbox user,= I > > > > > don't expect to have all of these items available. > > > > > > > > Perhaps it's not an Guix-specific bug but that's certainly not the = case > > > > with other distros. It was my understanding that Guix wanted to rea= ch > > > > the widest audience possible, including those not technically incli= ned. > > > > > > OK, though I certainly got locked out of my initial installation on a= rch linux because I forgot to add xterm for instance, and I'm sure all of t= hese items don't work ootb on debian or other distros. > > > Maybe having openbox as an initial choice in the installer is a bad i= dea, or the installer could add these packages. We could also change the op= enbox package to restrict the quantity of default menu entries to some mini= mum. > > I believe we could do something along these lines: > > 1. Provide an openbox-minimal and an openbox entry. > 2. openbox minimal would do what openbox does right now > 3. define a %openbox-recommended-packages list that makes most of it wor= k > 4. the openbox entry would append the %openbox-recommended-packages to > the package list. > > It needs more thought, but I believe this would improve the situation= , > and having this list would ease > setup not only on install. Wdyt? > > > > > I'd like to close your other bugs (39469 to 39474) as I think they al= l have the same root cause. I'll rename this one Do you agree? > > > > > > > > I don't really see how to improve the situation, do you have a > > > > > suggestion? > > > > > > > > I actually don't use Openbox as my default desktop environment. I w= as > > > > thinking about others. > > > > Scott > > > > scmguru - irc.freenode.net > > > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > > > =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Ori= ginal Message =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90= =E2=80=90 > > > > On Thursday, February 6, 2020 4:03 PM, Julien Lepiller > > > > julien@lepiller.eu wrote: > > > > > > > > > Le 6 f=C3=A9vrier 2020 15:39:36 GMT-05:00, "Scott C. MacCallum vi= a Bug > > > > > reports for GNU Guix" bug-guix@gnu.org a =C3=A9crit : > > > > > > > > > > > After the installation of all the available desktop environment= s, > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > Openbox from the Accessories menu Calculator does not load. > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > scmguru - irc.freenode.net > > > > > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > > > > > > > > > To be fair, if you installed only the openbox environment, none o= f > > > > > the items in the menu would work. However, this is not a guix-spe= cific > > > > > bug, and as an openbox user, I don't expect to have all of these = items > > > > > available. The menu is static and the same in all distros. You're > > > > > supposed to configure it yourself, which makes it not very user > > > > > friendly, but that's how it works. > > > > > I don't really see how to improve the situation, do you have a > > > > > suggestion? > > Best regards, > g_bor > > ---------------------- > > OpenPGP Key Fingerprint: 7988:3B9F:7D6A:4DBF:3719:0367:2506:A96C:CF63:0B2= 1