From: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: 40549@debbugs.gnu.org, Tom <tomz@freedommail.ch>
Subject: bug#40549: More usability issues:
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 12:38:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ3okZ3=Qk6Xa9ZBC70mo=62b-KGnu9DnzNC8QqW-fxJW8rSoQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mu6dcz8v.fsf@gnu.org>
Hi Ludo,
Sorry, I am not compliant and reorder your quotes to ease the
discussion -- from my point of view. :-)
On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 10:51, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
> However (srfi srfi-37) does it as we see it now. Fixing it would mean
> implementing a different option parser.
Yes or add a lot of complexity.
Both appears to me wrong. Such corner cases do not deserve one or the other.
> I think there are option parsers that “correctly” deal with the
> ambiguity that arises for instance with “-I -p foo” (is ‘-p’ the
> argument to ‘-I’ or something else?). Perhaps libc’s argp does it
> right.
I have never deeply dove into srfi-37 and 'option' but from my
understanding, it is not possible. Somehow, the issue comes from
srfi-37 and srfi-37 should consider that if an argument starts with
dash, then it is not an argument and turn it into an option.
> Nothing new here, and everything is properly documented.
I am not sure. The manual says, for example:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
‘--list-installed[=REGEXP]’
‘-I [REGEXP]’
List the currently installed packages in the specified profile,
with the most recently installed packages shown last. When REGEXP
is specified, list only installed packages whose name matches
REGEXP.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
which is somehow inaccurate. The REGEXP is not optional for the short
option '-I'. And that's true for all the short options with optional
argument, if I understand correctly. For example, "guix package -d -p
/path/to/profile" fails.
Moreover, the distinction between 'action' and 'query' is already
stated so why not underline that composing actions make sense
(transaction) but composing query not?
> > However, main of us are used to read from left to right so it seems
> > more natural to write:
> >
> > guix package --action1 --action2 # (a)
> > than
> > guix package --action2 --action1 # (b)
> >
> > in other words, the fix should be to simply 'reverse opts' and the CLI
> > will read (a) instead of the current (b). My only concern is about
> > backward compatibility.
>
> We’ll need to check exactly what will behave differently. If the tests
> don’t catch anything, I think we’re fine. Most likely, we’re talking
> about corner cases like ‘-S x -d y’, which probably very few people
> tried.
Ok, on this light, let first point the corner cases.
All the best,
simon
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Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-11 9:23 bug#40549: [usability] revert last generation Tom Zander via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2020-04-23 19:37 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-23 19:51 ` bug#40549: More usability issues: Tom via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2020-04-24 8:28 ` zimoun
2020-05-12 0:27 ` zimoun
2020-05-12 8:51 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-12 9:54 ` Tom Zander via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2020-05-12 11:35 ` zimoun
2020-05-12 16:23 ` Tom Zander via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2020-05-12 18:08 ` zimoun
2020-05-12 20:19 ` Tom Zander via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2020-05-12 21:38 ` zimoun
2020-05-13 6:22 ` Tom Zander via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2020-05-13 16:32 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-05-13 18:02 ` zimoun
2020-05-13 18:53 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-05-14 9:08 ` zimoun
2020-05-12 14:10 ` zimoun
2020-05-12 10:38 ` zimoun [this message]
2020-05-12 13:58 ` zimoun
2020-05-14 8:15 ` Efraim Flashner
2020-05-14 9:13 ` zimoun
2020-05-14 14:25 ` bug#40549: Fix -p profile -p profile -I zimoun
2020-05-12 13:03 ` bug#40549: proposal for 'process-actions' zimoun
2020-05-12 16:26 ` Tom Zander via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2021-09-08 12:49 ` bug#40549: [usability] revert last generation zimoun
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