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boundary="000000000000d291aa05b7ec2c15" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-guix@gnu.org List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: 45571@debbugs.gnu.org, Leo Prikler Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "bug-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.23 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (headers rsa verify failed) header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=PGK7hupG; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 690589402A9 X-Spam-Score: -1.23 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: v+YGXWgdUv3L --000000000000d291aa05b7ec2c15 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Danny, On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 9:50 AM Danny Milosavljevic wrote: > > >From the solutions we do have so far, I believe that making user > > > accounts an explicit part of service configuration (in what shape may > > > still be up for debate), > > Not everything needs to be user configurable. You suggest having these > kinds > of things especially user-configurable as a work-around for them not being > stable, right? Or do you want it in general? > > I would like to avoid them here, if only needed for that reason. > > Is there a need for using custom service UIDs? > I think if so, that is independent of this bug report, which asked for > stable UIDs and GIDs. > As far as I know, stability is sufficient for me, but Leo raised some cases where specific values would ease migration. An /etc/passwd seed file seems like another reasonable way to handle that, but I haven't investigated how difficult this change would be compared adding new knobs in operating-system. --000000000000d291aa05b7ec2c15 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Danny,

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 9:50 AM Danny Mil= osavljevic <dannym@scratchpost= .org> wrote:
> >From the solutions we do have so far, I believe that making user > > accounts an explicit part of service configuration (in what shape= may
> > still be up for debate),

Not everything needs to be user configurable.=C2=A0 You suggest having thes= e kinds
of things especially user-configurable as a work-around for them not being<= br> stable, right?=C2=A0 Or do you want it in general?

I would like to avoid them here, if only needed for that reason.

Is there a need for using custom service UIDs?
I think if so, that is independent of this bug report, which asked for
stable UIDs and GIDs.

As far as I know,= stability is sufficient for me, but Leo raised some cases where specific v= alues would ease migration. An /etc/passwd seed file seems like another rea= sonable way to handle that, but I haven't investigated how difficult th= is change would be compared adding new knobs in operating-system.
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