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From: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>
To: "Tobias Geerinckx-Rice" <me@tobias.gr>, "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: 54691@debbugs.gnu.org, Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>,
	56599@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#54691: fortune-mod propagates various non-nice things
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2022 19:12:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8ddb8ad9db66e89534184df1a2b20bd3124672fc.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E61C2DFA-D252-43C8-B946-5805C1C24847@tobias.gr>

Am Donnerstag, dem 04.08.2022 um 15:37 +0000 schrieb Tobias Geerinckx-
Rice:
> > To me use of ‘deprecated-package’ in this case is just to ensure
> > that users who run ‘guix upgrade’ will transparently get
> > ‘fortune-jkirchartz’.  I don’t have a strong opinion though.
> 
> I believe what Liliana meant is that it's worse to 'transparently'
> upgrade to a data package that doesn't provide the 'fortune' command
> at all (or conversely, an implementation of the command that doesn't
> propagate the actual fortune data), than it is to signal to users
> through an error message that something's up and they need to stop
> and think.
> 
> (Er, that's a lot more words to put in someone's mouth than I
> intended to, sorry :-)
I'm not saying either option is worse than the other, just that we
can't pick both in a manner that provides a functioning package, and
that transparently upgrading to a package that does nothing is a pretty
bad option.  We could transparently upgrade to daikichi, but that'd
just say "no fortunes found" because FORTUNE_PATH will be empty.  Other
options would include a metapackage (also rejected by Maxime) or
providing a dummy fortune-mod package that fails at build with a
helpful message and is disabled in CI (came up as a shower thought).

Cheers




  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-04 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-03 13:09 bug#54691: fortune-mod propagates various non-nice things Maxime Devos
2022-04-03 17:26 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-04-03 18:12   ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-03 18:41   ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-04 10:41   ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-19 19:20   ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-20  4:31     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-20  8:45       ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-20 16:57         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-20 18:50           ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-03 18:20 ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-14  1:30 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-07-14 13:00   ` Csepp
2022-07-14 14:55     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-07-19 18:54       ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-19 19:45   ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 15:06 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v2 1/5] gnu: Add daikichi Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:06 ` bug#54691: [PATCH " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:06 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v3 2/6] " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:11 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v3 3/6] gnu: Add fortunes-jkirchartz Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:11 ` bug#54691: [PATCH 2/5] " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 19:54   ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 20:43     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 21:41       ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 21:52         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 22:13           ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 19:56   ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 20:53     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 22:01       ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-24  1:09       ` bokr
2022-07-23 15:11 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v2 " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:13 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v3 4/6] gnu: Remove fortune-mod Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:13 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v2 3/5] " Liliana Marie Prikler
     [not found]   ` <87y1w5sarm.fsf_-_@gnu.org>
2022-08-03 17:09     ` bug#54691: fortune-mod propagates various non-nice things Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-04 12:23       ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-08-04 15:37         ` [bug#56599] " Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Guix-patches via
2022-08-04 17:12           ` Liliana Marie Prikler [this message]
2022-08-04 19:58             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix
     [not found]               ` <20220806230112.GA16948@LionPure>
2022-08-06 23:05                 ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 15:13 ` bug#54691: [PATCH 3/5] gnu: Remove fortune-mod Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 19:58   ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 20:54     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:16 ` bug#54691: [PATCH 4/5] gnu: Remove rinutils Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:16 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v2 " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-24 10:33   ` paren--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2022-07-24 11:27     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:16 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v3 5/6] " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:17 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v3 6/6] gnu: Remove shlomif-cmake-modules Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:17 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v2 5/5] " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:17 ` bug#54691: [PATCH " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-13  9:26 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v3 1/6] build-system: copy: Support #:tests? Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-28 22:16   ` Liliana Marie Prikler

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