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dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=lepiller.eu header.s=dkim header.b="T7gFCf/ "; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=lepiller.eu (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 637D612C16 X-Spam-Score: -1.33 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: RbMItoEATy8v ------FWMTJQCT604A5Q9N7LQ74YZ4HOATUY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, resolved is on the client side=2E This means that they managed to set u= p dnssec, but some clients who use systemd (most Linux users) can't connect= to gnu=2Eorg domains anymore=2E I don't think this is acceptable :) Le 25 mai 2021 08:51:29 GMT-04:00, bo0od a =C3=A9crit= : >Then dont use systemd to do that=2E There many other methods/tools to=20 >achieve having it=2E > >Marius Bakke: >> Julien Lepiller skriver: >>=20 >>> Le 16 avril 2021 12:15:25 GMT-04:00, Leo Famulari > a =C3=A9crit : >>>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 11:00:05AM +0000, bo0od wrote: >>>>> Scanning Guix website gave many missing security features which >>>> modern >>>>> security needs them to be available: >>>>> >>>>> * TLS and DNS: >>>>> >>>>> looking at: >>>>> >>>>> https://www=2Ehardenize=2Ecom/report/guix=2Egnu=2Eorg/1618568751 >>>>> >>>>> https://www=2Essllabs=2Ecom/ssltest/analyze=2Ehtml?d=3Dguix=2Egnu=2E= org >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>>> - DNS: DNSSEC support missing (important) >>>> >>>> Hm, is it important? My impression is that it's an idea whose time >has >>>> passed without significant adoption=2E >>>> >>>> But maybe we could enable it if the costs are not too great=2E >>> >>> gnu=2Eorg does not have dnssec, so we'd need them to work on that >first=2E >>=20 >> gnu=2Eorg used to have DNSSEC, but disabled it because it gave NXDOMAIN >> on machines with systemd-resolved: >>=20 >> https://github=2Ecom/systemd/systemd/issues/9867 >>=20 ------FWMTJQCT604A5Q9N7LQ74YZ4HOATUY Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, resolved is on the client side=2E This means t= hat they managed to set up dnssec, but some clients who use systemd (most L= inux users) can't connect to gnu=2Eorg domains anymore=2E I don't think thi= s is acceptable :)

Le 25 mai 2021 08:51:2= 9 GMT-04:00, bo0od <bo0od@riseup=2Enet> a =C3=A9crit :
Then dont use systemd to do that=2E There many other=
 methods/tools to 
achieve having it=2E

Marius Bakke:
Julien Lepiller <julien@lepille=
r=2Eeu> skriver:

Le 16 avril 2021 12:15:25 GMT-04:00, Leo Famulari <leo@famulari=2Ename&=
gt; a =C3=A9crit :
On F=
ri, Apr 16, 2021 at 11:00:05AM +0000, bo0od wrote:
Scanning Guix website gave many missing securit=
y features which
modern
 security needs them to be available:

 * TLS and DN=
S:

 looking at:

 https://www=2Ehardenize=2Ecom/report/guix=
=2Egnu=2Eorg/1618568751

 https://www=2Essllabs=2Ecom/ss=
ltest/analyze=2Ehtml?d=3Dguix=2Egnu=2Eorg

 Thanks!<=
br>
- DNS: DNSSEC suppo=
rt missing (important)

 Hm, is it important? My impress=
ion is that it's an idea whose time has
 passed without significant adop=
tion=2E

 But maybe we could enable it if the costs are not too great=
=2E

 gnu=2Eorg does not have dnssec, so we'd need them =
to work on that first=2E

gnu=2Eorg used to have DNSSEC,=
 but disabled it because it gave NXDOMAIN
on machines with systemd-resol=
ved:

   https://github=2Ecom/systemd/systemd/issues/9867

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