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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: "Nicolò Balzarotti" <anothersms@gmail.com>
Cc: 38360@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#38360: Retroarch might violate FSDG
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:27:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zhggt186.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO7Ox=aNu5AcxHVTm5puORCLf5aeJQ+MNdoRtbi7fnfG4g7aoA@mail.gmail.com> ("Nicolò Balzarotti"'s message of "Wed, 27 Nov 2019 00:26:48 +0100")

Hi Nicolò,

Nicolò Balzarotti <anothersms@gmail.com> skribis:

> We don't provide them _directly_, but when loading the program the first
> option is "Load core". Then, first option again, is "Download core". Here
> you have a list of "proprietary" .so.zip downloads. Retroarch, as far as I
> understand, is encouraging the download of those programs, with no
> licensing information (see [1]).  I don't know if this is ok or if we can
> patch it (hiding the "Download core" menu maybe?).

Oh, that sounds pretty bad.  In my view, it’s a problem:

  1. from a user freedom viewpoint, because the user might unwillingly
     find themselves downloading non-free code, and thus Guix is not
     fulfilling its mission;

  2. from a security and engineering viewpoint, because we certainly
     don’t want users to run code from arbitrary binaries downloaded
     from the net.

I think it definitely needs to be fixed.

> Debian _does_ provide (from their package manager) some o the cores [2],
> two of them with the non-free tag.
> If we patch retroarch to hide the download menu, to make it functional we
> should also package some free cores.

That sounds like a plan.

Would you be able to help with that?  Hopefully there are patches we can
take from Debian, no?

If nobody can work on it in a timely fashion, I would propose to remove
retroarch until someone can do this work.

WDYT?

Thanks,
Ludo’.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-11-28 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-24 14:15 bug#38360: Retroarch might violate FSDG Nicolò Balzarotti
2019-11-26 10:34 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-11-26 23:26   ` Nicolò Balzarotti
2019-11-27  2:09     ` Jesse Gibbons
2019-11-27 20:48       ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-11-28  0:02         ` bug#38360: Retroarch does " Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2019-11-28 10:06           ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-11-30  4:24             ` Mark H Weaver
2019-11-30 12:10               ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-11-28  0:35         ` bug#38360: Retroarch might " Nicolò Balzarotti
2019-11-28  8:05           ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-11-30 21:58         ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2019-11-28 16:27     ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2019-11-28 19:24       ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2019-11-29 15:21         ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2019-11-29 15:24           ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2019-11-29 16:05           ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-11-29 20:14           ` bug#38360: [PATCH] gnu: retroarch: Disable Online Updater [FSDG fix] Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2019-11-30 21:20             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix

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